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Missiles still viable or not
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Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-09-20 17:23:03 UTC
Typical trained into my tengu and quite comfortable in it, then read that heavy missiles are getting nerfed. As a casual player who mainly pve's is the nerf actually worth worrying about? if it is then what is the logical choice of ship to aim for next? i have partially trained gunnery skills and battleship skills.

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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#2 - 2012-09-20 17:26:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Saede Riordan
You'll get 25% less range and 20% less damage if the changes remain as the are. If that's not a problem for you, then no, nothing to worry about. If it is a problem, you better make at least 3 posts about how its ruining eve on the General Discussion.

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adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-09-20 17:26:31 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Typical trained into my tengu and quite comfortable in it, then read that heavy missiles are getting nerfed. As a casual player who mainly pve's is the nerf actually worth worrying about? if it is then what is the logical choice of ship to aim for next? i have partially trained gunnery skills and battleship skills.


Your volleys are going to go down from 2500 to 2000, but that's about it.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2012-09-20 17:27:14 UTC
HML will get 20% dps nerf and 25% range nerf.

They will still be one of the better long range med weapons.
Athena Themis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-09-20 17:39:12 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
HML will get 20% dps nerf and 25% range nerf.

They will still be one of the better long range med weapons.


Mainly due to the other options being purely ****.
Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-09-20 17:40:45 UTC
ok thanks for the replies, so as a backup what would be the best ship type to train up for now?

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Ginger Barbarella
#7 - 2012-09-20 17:42:58 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Typical trained into my tengu and quite comfortable in it, then read that heavy missiles are getting nerfed. As a casual player who mainly pve's is the nerf actually worth worrying about? if it is then what is the logical choice of ship to aim for next? i have partially trained gunnery skills and battleship skills.


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Athena Themis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-09-20 17:43:09 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, so as a backup what would be the best ship type to train up for now?


Mostly depends on what specific pve activity you want to do. For example, if a c3/c4 wh, then tengu will most likely still be the best choice despite the nerf.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-09-20 17:44:12 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, so as a backup what would be the best ship type to train up for now?


If you are aiming for a drake still go for it and train up HAMs.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#10 - 2012-09-20 17:54:41 UTC
Train Amarr or Gallente, CCP has hinted they will be destroying Minmatar after they've implemented the complete annihilation of Caldari.

Now with 100% less Troll.
Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-09-20 17:55:35 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, so as a backup what would be the best ship type to train up for now?


If you are aiming for a drake still go for it and train up HAMs.



already go my drake, am really looking for a complete change ie cross training into another race and different weapon types ie gun/turrets hence why i asked the experts :) i am mainly in amarr space have been thinking loki,machariel or something else, don't want to waste time training into a dead slug lol

"If at first you don't succeed, remove all evidence you ever tried"

"If your boss is getting you down, look at him through the prongs of a fork and imagine him in jail"
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2012-09-20 17:57:18 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Train Amarr or Gallente, CCP has hinted they will be destroying Minmatar after they've implemented the complete annihilation of Caldari.


God I love balance passes!
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#13 - 2012-09-20 17:58:29 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, so as a backup what would be the best ship type to train up for now?


If you are aiming for a drake still go for it and train up HAMs.



already go my drake, am really looking for a complete change ie cross training into another race and different weapon types ie gun/turrets hence why i asked the experts :) i am mainly in amarr space have been thinking loki,machariel or something else, don't want to waste time training into a dead slug lol


Nothing Minmatar, CCP has hinted they'll obsolete them so they'll be just a sunk as missile users, CCP repeatedly refered to Beam Lasers as the new baseline for all things, so you might as well train a Amarrian ship.

Now with 100% less Troll.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-09-20 18:09:24 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
And when he says obsolete, he means they won't be OP anymoreBlink
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#15 - 2012-09-20 18:10:02 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, so as a backup what would be the best ship type to train up for now?


If you are aiming for a drake still go for it and train up HAMs.



already go my drake, am really looking for a complete change ie cross training into another race and different weapon types ie gun/turrets hence why i asked the experts :) i am mainly in amarr space have been thinking loki,machariel or something else, don't want to waste time training into a dead slug lol


Nothing Minmatar, CCP has hinted they'll obsolete them so they'll be just a sunk as missile users, CCP repeatedly refered to Beam Lasers as the new baseline for all things, so you might as well train a Amarrian ship.



Thats wierd, I can hear a kind of annoying whining noise.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#16 - 2012-09-20 18:11:17 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Tom Gerard wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, so as a backup what would be the best ship type to train up for now?


If you are aiming for a drake still go for it and train up HAMs.



already go my drake, am really looking for a complete change ie cross training into another race and different weapon types ie gun/turrets hence why i asked the experts :) i am mainly in amarr space have been thinking loki,machariel or something else, don't want to waste time training into a dead slug lol


Nothing Minmatar, CCP has hinted they'll obsolete them so they'll be just a sunk as missile users, CCP repeatedly refered to Beam Lasers as the new baseline for all things, so you might as well train a Amarrian ship.



Thats wierd, I can hear a kind of annoying whining noise.


Well I guess it is just time for the Gallente and Amarrians to have their day, Winmatar have been the dominant gods of PVP, and Caldari of the L4 Mission running.

Now they'll feel what it is like to be completely worthless and farmed. =)

Now with 100% less Troll.
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#17 - 2012-09-20 18:17:28 UTC
Minmatar and Caldari will stillbe fine and perfectly viable as both pvp and pve ships. The Cane might not go quite so fast and track so well and the Drake may not hit an battleship ranges, but as battlecruisers go, they will still be fine.
Droneboats have been the kings of cheap pve ships since the dawn of time anyway.

Funnily enough I have flown almost entirely Minnie and Caldari boats for the last year and more, yet this round of changes doesnt worry me.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#18 - 2012-09-20 18:21:51 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Minmatar and Caldari will stillbe fine and perfectly viable as both pvp and pve ships. The Cane might not go quite so fast and track so well and the Drake may not hit an battleship ranges, but as battlecruisers go, they will still be fine.
Droneboats have been the kings of cheap pve ships since the dawn of time anyway.

Funnily enough I have flown almost entirely Minnie and Caldari boats for the last year and more, yet this round of changes doesnt worry me.



Fine to shoot at? lol =)

Lucky for me I have 40m+ SP not invested in missiles, so I'll have no problem killing the poor low SP losers who spent their first year in EVE on a training goal that just got nerfed into the ground.

Now with 100% less Troll.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#19 - 2012-09-20 18:34:19 UTC
The sky isn't falling as some would want you to believe. HM boats just won't be as OP as they use to be when it comes to PvE. They will still however dominate over the other races when it comes to PVE for other reasons.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#20 - 2012-09-20 18:37:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
And when he says obsolete, he means they won't be OP anymoreBlink


Yep. Smile

Interestingly, if you think about it, the nerf is actually going to be to the tanks of those boats. I say that because if people find the range and/or damage insufficient to meet their desires they can easily get them back up to pre-nerf levels or beyond by sacrificing a bit of tank for the newly buffed Tracking Computers/Enhancers.

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