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Yes indeed, the issues in null sec have been addressed. The new AI was going to be a game-breaker in many null sec plexes.
Of course, the same issues that will wreck drone boats in high sec fall on deaf ears.

If I was cynical, I would suggest that this is another part of the long-term plan by the CSM and elements of CCP to eradicate high sec income.

But that can't be true, as the entire CSM and all CCP devs, especially ones like Soundwave, have proclaimed their respect and appreciation of the high sec subscription base many many times.

I haven't really seen anything that proves that the AI swaps targets, after swapping targets... if that makes sense?

From what I saw the new AI will target swap to a new target until it dies / leaves... and only has the potential to swap to a new target when a new target arrives on grid.

Of course, that was in the narrow testing window we were allotted last month, so who knows. I guess we'll know for sure in half a month.



My understanding of the math behind the logged in numbers is that it includes both Eve Online player's and Dust player's... so expect those numbers to swell dramatically with the Dust'ers, and be rather meaningless for a long time to come.

At last Nightmare is more beneficial than Thanatos))))))))
This means that I should spend 60-90 days of study

This is terrible,
again changes the balance of the game is not agreeing with the players

ah yes, more nerfs to mission runners. While i am all for increasing the entertainment value and not making them paters to run, this is still a nerf. We are getting a more complicated AI that "hates" something they are immune to. "look, were being nossed/jammed/damped and its not doing anything to us, damn it i hate them!!!!" can we get this changed, that's just not "intelligent" to me. Either allow our ECM to affect them, or them to ignore it like i would if it didn't bother me!!!

Ultimately, this will end up just another step in the EvE recession, drone region changes tightened the noose, remove drone poo, and replace with a lesser bounty, but NO drops at all( hm, that trend sounds familiar, incursions drop wrecks that clutter up the battlefield for absolutely no reason, no salvage, no loot, no bounty, why even leave a wreck?) Normal rat loot table nerf in the guise of a miner buff, most the good drops are now practically useless metal scraps (only good thing about em is they are really amazing trit compression, if only we could get a bpo to make metal scraps). then the mining ship changes and the ultimate inflation of the mineral prices.

You will be making missions more complicated to run with the same or less payouts, so fewer people will consider them worth running, at least give us something in return, you know, it would be a good time to start adding a few t2 mods to the loot table, the idea that rats have been around this long and haven't figured out t2 is a bit silly, or even restore the more lucrative mods that were dropped back in, but in the form of 1-3 run bpc's on the loot table, this will both buff the miners and the ratters without allowing the gun miner to salvage it for minerals. at least throw us a friggin bone.

i really do hope this will make the mission running and belt ratting a little more fun.

NOS aside (for which they aren't but are immune to...), are they really immune to the rest?
Scram grabs nullsec battleships that would warp out (doesn't happen in hisec but whatever)
Jam may work as well, just not sure about the point in it, when it's chance based for one target and they have 10 times the numers, so even if you get a successful cycle off, nine others still shoot at you. Not really efficient. Specially since you used one or more modules for it.
Damp... Even worse than Jam, since they target out to many times as far as their weapons, wouldn't be easy to create a scenario where damping one makes sense. If it works, never heard of someone testing it.
Tracking disruption should work, and would make sense, if it would force a rail serpentis to come closer to your blaster brutix... But I doubt it does. And falls into the one against many scenario again.

Web and Paint work on them and are used for great effect on setups that really need it.

Faction rats in 0.5 Space will warp out also. Ok, so they are only Faction frigates, but they can still drop Pirate frigate BPC's. So yea, Scrams not useless.

Since everybody is going on about L4s and Forsaken hubs. How about taking a Vexor or an Arbitrator into the Recon 1 L2 version with a low skill character (~3m SP, without T2 modules, this including drones, maybe a T2 repper though as that's a really short train), the kinds that will usually be running these L2s. This mission is already seriously hard on such SP levels as is, I'd be very interested how it would play out with the new AI, especially with all the destroyers in there.

Istr there being other L2s with lots of frigates that could get nasty (Damsel?) but Recon is the one I remember best...

If you haven't noticed... CCP test runs their missions in max skilled characters. You're likely out of luck on this front. But in theory the test servers should be up in half a month or so (next Friday, maybe?) so there may be some short time window allotted for us to test it before they rip the servers down again.

OTOH, CCP seems pretty intent on doubling down with this change and aren't going to stop from implementing it, regardless... so... ehh.

ITT 45 pages of bad players incapable and unwilling to adapt to any kind of changes.