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Warp Drive a Possibility?
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Pix Severus
Empty You
#1 - 2012-09-19 12:48:32 UTC
I saw this article a couple of days ago, I thought it might be of interest to some here.

http://www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-possible-interstellar-spaceflight.html

Quote:
HOUSTON — A warp drive to achieve faster-than-light travel — a concept popularized in television's Star Trek — may not be as unrealistic as once thought, scientists say.

A warp drive would manipulate space-time itself to move a starship, taking advantage of a loophole in the laws of physics that prevent anything from moving faster than light. A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre; however, subsequent calculations found that such a device would require prohibitive amounts of energy.

Now physicists say that adjustments can be made to the proposed warp drive that would enable it to run on significantly less energy, potentially bringing the idea back from the realm of science fiction into science.

"There is hope," Harold "Sonny" White of NASA's Johnson Space Center said here Friday (Sept. 14) at the 100 Year Starship Symposium, a meeting to discuss the challenges of interstellar spaceflight.


It may be a long time before anything (or nothing) comes of this, but I'm happy that there are people out there experimenting with creating warp drives in laboratories, right now.

There are many people who would scoff at the idea of breaking (or bending) the laws of physics to achieve faster-than-light travel, but I like to believe that anything is possible in this crazy universe.

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#2 - 2012-09-19 12:56:37 UTC
When you watch Star Trek, it shows that even warp drive was too slow.

Why should we put so much effort in discovering an older and perhaps outdated method of travel.

Lets get a better form of travel going. Nothing is better then instantaneous I believe.

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#3 - 2012-09-19 13:32:47 UTC
rodyas wrote:
When you watch Star Trek, it shows that even warp drive was too slow.

Why should we put so much effort in discovering an older and perhaps outdated method of travel.

Lets get a better form of travel going. Nothing is better then instantaneous I believe.


Tell that to the crew of the Event Horizon. :(

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Corwain
Rum Booty Plunder
#4 - 2012-09-19 13:42:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Corwain
Time, we made it up. Machines may be able to exploit this fact but there will always be limits.

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Wilhelm Riley
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-09-19 13:57:40 UTC
rodyas wrote:
When you watch Star Trek, it shows that even warp drive was too slow.

Why should we put so much effort in discovering an older and perhaps outdated method of travel.

Lets get a better form of travel going. Nothing is better then instantaneous I believe.


You're right, why aren't they working on an FTL drive from Battlestar Galactica?
San Fransisco
Silver Falcon Survey
#6 - 2012-09-19 14:12:30 UTC
I also read about that and also think it is pretty damn coolBig smile
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#7 - 2012-09-19 15:49:16 UTC
rodyas wrote:

Why should we put so much effort in discovering an older and perhaps outdated method of travel. [/b]


Why should we continue using the wheel? I mean, it's gotta be a few million years old and outdated by now....
Pix Severus
Empty You
#8 - 2012-09-19 21:52:43 UTC
Corwain wrote:
Time, we made it up. Machines may be able to exploit this fact but there will always be limits.

P.S. Give me my shirt back. You look like Brian Molko and it's creeping me out.


Funnily enough I met Brian Molko once whilst he was touring with Placebo, around 10 years ago. Your shirt is lovely, I think I'll borrow it for a little while longer.

I don't think we made time up, it's simply a result of distance divided by speed, maybe our perception of it is wrong, but its still there all the same.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-09-19 21:53:05 UTC
Just think.... probably within the next 100-150 years we'll have warp Big smile

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stoicfaux
#10 - 2012-09-20 14:41:13 UTC
As much as a like the idea of a working warp drive, I have to pause and think about the energy requirements to power it. Then I think about how many idiots there are in the world who would love to get their hands on that much energy. Which leads me to work on a good epitaph for Humanity.



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Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#11 - 2012-09-20 15:14:41 UTC
Warp drive is nice, but I would rather see people turning themselves into cyborgs in my lifetime than a warp drive.

Why?

Because then I would live long enough see and use the warp drive!

(then i would become a capsuleer just cuz)
Alphaphi
KASK Heavy logistics
#12 - 2012-09-20 18:22:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Alphaphi
we already have the theory (Check Alcubierres theory of propulsion ) so we just need a way to make it work in practice.

well yeah, it requires tonnes of energy, we just need to find a way to produce it.
Anti-matter engines anyone?
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#13 - 2012-09-20 21:15:47 UTC
Hmmm... I'd go with dimensional travel as the viable solution. All we need to do is find a 'spice planet' to harvest Cool
But fast proportion is still good for getting around solar systems.

I'm in it for the money

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Selinate
#14 - 2012-09-21 01:40:06 UTC
Alphaphi wrote:
we already have the theory (Check Alcubierres theory of propulsion ) so we just need a way to make it work in practice.

well yeah, it requires tonnes of energy, we just need to find a way to produce it.
Anti-matter engines anyone?


The most recent article is about the same thing, except for updating the model I believe.
Reiisha
#15 - 2012-09-21 01:47:16 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Warp drive is nice, but I would rather see people turning themselves into cyborgs in my lifetime than a warp drive.

Why?

Because then I would live long enough see and use the warp drive!

(then i would become a capsuleer just cuz)


That;s already happening now aswell, actually... Faster than you think 0-o

I've seen some prostheses that can mimic the human arm pretty damn closely, they're about to be 'live' tested. Some artificial organs already exist. Rudimentary interaction directly with the human brain through electronics is also already possible.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#16 - 2012-09-21 23:59:09 UTC
Warp drive is too slow. Give me plaid drive.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-09-22 00:02:42 UTC
MinefieldS wrote:
Warp drive is too slow. Give me plaid drive.


Ludicrous speed! GO!

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Alara IonStorm
#18 - 2012-09-22 00:36:34 UTC
Quote:
A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre;

It would be fine if he wants to illegal immigrate to the States and get paid under the table working for NASA so I can illegal immigrate to Alpha Centauri and get paid under the table picking asteroids.
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#19 - 2012-09-22 18:08:52 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Quote:
A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre;

It would be fine if he wants to illegal immigrate to the States and get paid under the table working for NASA so I can illegal immigrate to Alpha Centauri and get paid under the table picking asteroids.

But then you'd have to shave your head bald.
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#20 - 2012-09-22 21:11:43 UTC
Alphaphi wrote:
we already have the theory (Check Alcubierres theory of propulsion ) so we just need a way to make it work in practice.

well yeah, it requires tonnes of energy, we just need to find a way to produce it.
Anti-matter engines anyone?


The problem with an Alcubierre Bubble is more than just energy consumption. For one, there's currently no known way to leave the bubble once you're inside. I think it's a neat idea, but the limitations are simply too great.
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