Wormholes

Hello friends.

Me and my buddies have been quietly existing in a C2/C3 for around five months, training away so we can find an established Wormhole Corp in the future, getting the relevant skills up to speed and learning how to play them, as well as attempting to adapt to WH life. It's no secret that RR Tengus are the preferred method for most sleeper sites, at least up to C4 and, from what I've seen, some C5s.

We've gotten to the point where the isk is rolling and we've moved our skill plans to the PvP systems of choice, namely armour ships and mostly turret based, with a view to T3 hulls. Needless to say, the incoming missile nerf is a concern for us.

Have you fine WH dwellers given much thought to PvE post nerf, or are we looking at trial and error for a while? We've been biding our time training for some time and would like to adjust as soon as possible. With little to no experience, personally, other than missile platforms, I really am not sure where to start. We're looking to be able to fly all T3 cruiser hulls however I'm sure you'd understand that we'd like to move in a direction that would enable us to move to an existing, and successful, WH corp/alliance with as much speed as possible. It has been a long five months getting to this point and we'd like to waste as little time as possible moving forward.

Any thoughts or discussion on the matter will be great appreciated and the beets will be on the house.

Assuming you're talking about subcaps only: Random DPS ships with appropriate logi cruisers alongside works for everything up to class 6.

Also, I don't see RR Tengus becoming useless; they'll just kill stuff 20% slower, or however many % by which the missile damage is reduced. Heck if TCs and TEs really will work on explosion radius / velocity they might even kill sleeper frigs/cruisers faster.

I have given 0 thoughts to wh pve because lmao at using missiles in wh pve

Living in a black hole will become even worse :) Ah hell, a good time to try some new things then.

no one lives in black holes

Meh,

If I were going to go thru the trouble, I'd just use a legion. Scorch will have the same range and does better overall applied DPS. I have a corpie who runs sites with me in his legion and his ownly downside is range vs my current HML tengu. But he pops cruisers and frigs faster than I can, and hits the battleships just as hard as I do.

HAM's might become viable when tracking mods affect the,. optimal range script tracking computer for example.

Looking at it from my side of the fence this might mean it takes longer for farmers to run sites and so they are vulnerable to being attacked for longer

Is there a special course you can take to be able to post so much useless garbish that assumes the way *I* do things it is the best way, the only way and the way everybody else should be doing things?

And if that's the case is that education mandatory for everybody in Elysian?

That last comment might have been a bit too much, sry for that.

However, I do think you represent your corp as well as your alliance to some degree when posting here. If that was not true, you would not felt compelled to try to do the distinction you did.

I'm excited to try the new missiles. I can't help but feel that HAMs + Tracking computers may end up being just as effective if not more than say Scorch HPLs. Explosion radius bonus for tracking speed scripts could potentially be huge and more effective than webs or painters depending on the values given, and range scripts could allow a Tengu to handily outrange any short range weapon system.

Range was never an "Issue" with HAMs on a Tengu, the issue was HMLs probably did it all better over 30km with slightly easier fitting.