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CCP – Humiliation via Face Book / Double Standards

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#61 - 2012-09-19 03:47:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Nope that's WoW, I'd rather admit to playing Hello Kitty Online than that ... bugger did I just admit to playing HKO?

HKO? Is that the game where people don't equip themselves to survive the big,bad people outside of their house when they go to mine for minerals and expect the developers to save them?

Oh wait...

Lol next time we have a patch that knocks Eve out for a few hours I think we, as a group, should go and introduce the HKO players to the dark side of MMO's

Honestly, I think you're going to harm yourself more, is it really worth it?

Also, "EVE, you are the HKO" meme, might as well take it out.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#62 - 2012-09-19 03:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
I suppose you're right the saccharin fluffiness might rub off on us.

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Doomheim
#63 - 2012-09-19 03:52:39 UTC
This thread makes me miss all of the mining suicide gank threads. Too bad there weren't like 30 hulks in the cargo too, then we could have the best of both worlds.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2012-09-19 03:59:06 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Also, "EVE, you are the HKO" meme, might as well take it out.

"No John, you are the demons!"
And then John was a zombie.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-09-19 04:13:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Lol next time we have a patch that knocks Eve out for a few hours I think we, as a group, should go and introduce the HKO players to the dark side of MMO's

I'm all for it. Let's take Fera as well. She could give us valuable pointers and be the tank for our HKO exploits.

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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#66 - 2012-09-19 06:44:37 UTC
The gods may laugh as much as they want!

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#67 - 2012-09-19 07:33:48 UTC
EglantinFinfleur wrote:


There are three kinds of people playing EvE now:
- Online sadists, unable to act their sociopathy IRL, or afraid of consequences
- Masochists, seeking a kind of punishment they cannot directly retaliate against
- Gamers loving sandbox sci-fi games and waiting for a new one where devs will actually take measures so it stays a game, and people don't go to the toilet in the sandbox.




Never have I seen a generalization fail to cover so much.


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Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-09-19 07:52:18 UTC
Dibble Dabble wrote:

Let me try and explain. Lets assume your a client of a on line gaming company. You put all your money on an unsuited 2/4 hand in poker, sadly your attempt to bluff fails and you lose all your money. The on-line gaming company then posts your hand and nick name on-line with a message along the lines of "what a dumb arse" come join us and you too could screw this dumb arse, we have more just like him.


A killmail is a kill as well as a loss. A big poker hand is a gain for someone as well as being a loss for someone else. Are you suggesting the poker company shouldn't advertise a big win because it meant someone lost big?

In competitive games when someone wins, someone else loses.
4IN1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-09-19 08:30:56 UTC
Wait, posting KM is a humiliation?
I through that humiliation is those people who teabaging unaware noob snipers in BF3.Lol

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-09-19 08:43:37 UTC
Dibble Dabble wrote:
I was told some time ago that creating disposable suicide alt accounts was not allowed and bans could be applied. Let’s do the sums for a suicide alt: Skills, 3 Months Plex and some ships. Cost £3bil. Income £10-20 bil before sec status hits -5 or CCP take action. Delete account, start again. No Risk, High Reward.


Could you please provide solid evidence to backup your claim that suicide gankers are disposable alts?

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Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
#71 - 2012-09-19 08:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirime Nolwe
EglantinFinfleur wrote:
A long time ago, CCP was pandering to BoB, blueprint scandal, spawns and all that jazz. They thought it was cool to have a big powerful entity polarizing hatred and resentment in New Eden, and in a way, it was.
Then BoB got bored, began to lose its coherence, got bored, and passed the torch to GoonFleet, spinning with the help of CCP a nice little tale of deceit and betrayal -do you really believe that "BoB director joined goons on an alt then gave passwords to BoB's infrastructure to the goons"?

Goons being what they are, overweight westerners with a fetish for fringe subcultures and online entertainment, a failing self-esteem that has to be boosted by mocking others, and lonely people seeking warmth amongst the same, they perfectly fitted the role that BoB had, the new scapegoat and hated entity of New Eden.

However, it meant that CCP had to pander to them. When they had to suck up to BoB, it only meant that they had to conform to the idea of alcoholic online tough guy armchair tacticians. With Goons now in charge of the big bad guy role, the paradigm switched to alcoholic cynical scammers lolsorandum griefing and use of a game not as a end in itself (rpg means roleplaying a person), but as a means to get cheap kicks out of total strangers, which is not roleplaying at all, but working out real life frustrations through trying hard to make random dudes miserable.

It's then very fitting that CCP does what you reported on Facebook.

It should also be noted that the vast majority of MMOs devs understood a long time ago that frustration is what drives players, much more than fun. Frustration you feel, or you inflict on others. CCP breeds it like a fragile orchid in New Eden.

There are three kinds of people playing EvE now:
- Online sadists, unable to act their sociopathy IRL, or afraid of consequences
- Masochists, seeking a kind of punishment they cannot directly retaliate against
- Gamers loving sandbox sci-fi games and waiting for a new one where devs will actually take measures so it stays a game, and people don't go to the toilet in the sandbox.


I hope Dust goes down the drain and WoD is a terrible failure. CCP used to have a great vision, and they've let themselves become cynical lardy alcoholics thinking it's way cool to be an online sociopath and pander to people who use games not to have fun, but work out their frustrations without fear of consequences.


It's hard to deny some truth in this, game direction is way out of the line traced in the early years. Is it bad? In some way i think so but only time will tell.
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-09-19 09:25:27 UTC
lol classy

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William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#73 - 2012-09-19 09:33:29 UTC
Well that backfired huh OP? Hahaha losing your ship to 6 T1 BCs. Classic carebear.

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Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#74 - 2012-09-19 09:37:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Highsec doesn't have real tactics involved due to game mechanics that suffocate consequential PVP. You should be happy that something of interest to anyone happened in highsec ever.

hth


>no bubbles
>no titan bridges
>no cynos
>no supercaps
>no massive blobs
>T2 ships and such can legitimately be fielded in a multi-role fleet

Yep, just another day in boring highsec in which the war is the same. Oh boy I wish I had structures to grind and maelstrom blob CTAs to attend.


Might I interest you in lowsec? If you haven't heard of it it's roughly all of the space that isn't high sec or 0.0 , I'd have to check but there seems to be a fair amount of systems that qualify.

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Doddy
Excidium.
#75 - 2012-09-19 10:00:26 UTC
Dibble Dabble wrote:
Yeep wrote:
Dibble Dabble wrote:

In your words "CCP can make vids and claim "actual footage used" but to a sceptical, hard-to-please gaming world it means little. A KM gives it providence". Question is - Do any other organisations use the misfortune of the clients *without client approval" to advertise their products?


So Blizzard shouldn't advertise world first boss kills because it might hurt the feelings of the guild who came second?
Activision shouldn't advertise the fact you can kill people in CoD because that means someone else is getting killed and they might not like that?

Grow up.


Yeep. I bow to your ignorance and I chuckle at your non argument. There are some that you can have a reasonable debate, sadly your not one of them. Let me know when you have finished school. But I pity you so I will help.

Let me try and explain. Lets assume your a client of a on line gaming company. You put all your money on an unsuited 2/4 hand in poker, sadly your attempt to bluff fails and you lose all your money. The on-line gaming company then posts your hand and nick name on-line with a message along the lines of "what a dumb arse" come join us and you too could screw this dumb arse, we have more just like him.



This is a terrible terrible argument. Anyone making a big win in poker is screwing over the other players, thats the whole point. Posting the killmail is no different from saying player x won $200k on this table. If its in a tourney play it will usually have a result which lets you see the players who lost as well. And really putting 22 bil in a freighter it takes less than 1 bil is a worse call thgan a poker hand where you can actually bluff.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-09-19 10:06:56 UTC
Please post the KM.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#77 - 2012-09-19 10:10:56 UTC
Dibble Dabble wrote:

I was told some time ago that creating disposable suicide alt accounts was not allowed and bans could be applied.


Er, they mean constantly biomassing your alt to get around the standing system. That is not allowed. Making an alt that only suicide ganks however is perfectly acceptable.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#78 - 2012-09-19 10:13:09 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:


>no titan bridges
>no cynos
>no supercaps
>no massive blobs
>T2 ships and such can legitimately be fielded in a multi-role fleet



Wormhole space?

But I guess, compared to rolling around in a smartbombing Tristan, those fights must be boring

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12371284

so you choose hisec because:

- soft targets that don't shoot back
- risk-free pvp
- neutral alts in said T2 ships
- CONCORD protection



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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#79 - 2012-09-19 10:33:48 UTC
Oh please, it's not like they'd put your real name in the link

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ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#80 - 2012-09-19 10:58:17 UTC
Clap Clap, finally someone that stands up against the cruelty and double standards that ccp surround themselfs with....

Or, it could be that im just bored as hell and found this a good waste of 30sec.

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