Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Strange thing is though in the tutorials that the new players are strongly encouraged to do an agent mission is called 'weapon of choice' and for the Caldari the tutorial is all about missiles.

All soldiers are pragmatic. The caldari are pragmatic enough to learn the fighting style of another race lol as their own isn't good enough. All I'm saying is that the reality of playing eve should match the back story as portrayed in the official canon.

Sorry for my bad english, it's not my first language.

So the Golem and Widow gets a bonus to hybrids, I wasn't aware of that.

Blasters is to Rails As Cruise is to Torps.

God you just don't give up and, But it's ok I love jumping on here and making you look stupid time and time again.

And the fact that there's no "one size fits all" turret?

Of course not, but to get it to a comparable level as my current CML skills requires quite a few up to 5.

So again, why would I deviate from my current plan "just in case" when a weapon system was lifted out of the gutter? One could just as easily point out that there's nothing stopping turret users training missiles and enjoying the madness that is cruises

Regardless, no matter the situation, my main point being:

Can we at least stop pretending that pilots magically gain skills when weapon systems change?

Not just in case of a nerf, but because that open you some oportunities ?

How many players do you think have trained Torps only to fly bombers ? I'd rather had a stealth frigate with 3 Neutron Canons instead of these torps, though torps do have their strengths, like no tracking and rather long range.

If your current plan is to master missiles, fine for you, though don't complain you can't do turret things, and don't complain when your weapon system is nerfed because it was OP.

What I mean here is that 1) missiles as a whole will be better than ever, and even HML will still be the best medLR weapon ; 2) missiles are not turrets, so any time you face something you can't do with missiles but you would be able to do with turrets, just consider training turrets, because that's why they exists in the first place.

@serras : caldari shield definitly are superior ; they have NO contender in this field. If you can tank a maelstrom some way, you can tank the rokh the same way, but better. T2 resist may be unfair, as they have their hole pluged (the same goes for amarr), though caldari always have more midslots than minmatar, and there base shield HP are higher, so they are able to compensate for this. As for the missiles, they do are better than turret *for long range combat*. That is the caldari doctrine. Why do you think they kept hybrid guns ? Are they completely stupid ? Or do hybrid guns still retain some qualities despite not being the best in their doctrine ?

For exactly the same reason that medium rails are failtastic.

It makes perfect sense to trade damage for range, and the amount of tradeoff works perfectly for small rails, but for medium rails the benefit to having *that much* range (especially on rail-bonused hulls) is small enough that the sacrifice of damage is excessive.

In my opinion the only ships where medium rails make sense at all are the ones with damage bonuses that are traditionally considered "blaster boats".

Their slower speed makes the reach of rails more important, and the damage bonus brings the damage up to a barely acceptable level.

Of course, this is completely off topic for this thread, but after almost 300 pages there isn't anything on topic left to say.

The whole point of my earlier post was simply to state that there's a back story in eve and that new players will most likely read some of it. If they follow the back-story and fit their caldari ships for rails and missiles as (opposed to being pragmatic and flying some other races ships or using non racial weapons ) then they will be worse off in pvp and have very little fun.

Is it so wrong to think that a game like eve which is supported by canon should have game mechanics that reflect the canon? It looks like Eve is getting divorced from it's backstory...

If any weapon weapon is overpowered in eve online it's the projectiles both long and short range... Nerf them and collect the minmatar tears in charity buckets.

the coming missle nerf nowere near makes a tengu useless

as you have said a minor kin hole witch is 40% i bilieve why then bassed on what you have said dont minmatar then have a completely 0% resists to kinetic if they never have to worry about it ? my point being is that certian thing like this dont add up i get that fact that t2 ships are wieghted to there faction rivals so then in turn minmatar should have a 0% kinetic resist ?

and im sure ccp will think og that and possibly give a blanket 40% resist to gall ships on the whole when they get to tech 2 however i would like them to readress the ships resists so that they all add up to the same