Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I did not suggest that the Naga is not a fine ship. It is, and I am sure that the Gallente pilots were grateful to have it. But Caldari's signature weapon is MISSILES. Making the Naga use hybrids was the equivalent of making the Tornado use missiles. Except CCP didn't do that, did they.

Today, a year later, it's old news. but at the time it absolutely pissed a lot of Caldari pilots off big time. So much so that I heard someone in my corp bring it up just the other day, and he was still mad about it. That's the thing that some of you guys don't understand, and you couldn't understand unless it was happening to you. Imagine the scenario, you are a Caldari pilot, you have been waiting literally years now for CCP to fix your ships, you've got the Drake and that's it. You never trained hybrids because, up until very recently hybrids were broken as well --and even with them fixed it's not like the Caldari have any great hybrid ships worth training them for.

Suddenly, out of no where CCP announces new ships for everyone. An entirely new class of BC, and one that will potentially allow you to finally use those elite torpedo skills you trained so long ago. If you were Caldari, you were THRILLED. It was the best Christmas ever. Then CCP changed their mind, jerked your toy right out of your hands, and gave it instead to someone else.

So yeah, it was a big deal.

And as for the Torp Naga on SiSi, welcome to the exiciting world of Caldari PvP. Of course it was crap, it's ALL crap, that's what this thread is about. That's WHY people are angry. Caldari pilots are tired of the nerfs, tired of the broken ships, tired of the broken weapons, tired of seeing development attention and imagination focussed on making everyone else better and Caldari worse. You realize that Caldari pilots have not one, but TWO additional nerfs CCP has already said are in the works. They are nerfing missiles further with TDs, and they are nerfing ECM.

But not one statement about fixing anything.

I actually fly a HAM tengu pretty often, I find that the ham tengu at the right range is better than the hml tengu anyway,all it needs is a good range buff.

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Caldari: missiles/hybrids
Gallente: hybrids/drones
Amarr: lasers/drones/missiles
Minmatar: projectiles/missiles/drones

There's a reason why Minmatar is "most skill intensive race" in the game.

These changes are starting to look real good. A 10% nerf to HML damage is pretty much on the mark what they need.

noooooo! uve started him off again. now we have to do this all over...

Is there a reason why Caldari needs iWin button?

If you care to read you will see I dont have only plenty of lowsec losses .. but also lowsec kills, and much more of them. As you can see this particular toon is not really about Drakes. I said that also a lot of times, reading and understanding will help here.

And this here for example http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17680770 was no GCC at all. Same as the same guy short time before. Although I admit Gyro II was maybe not the best choice in his fitting.

So if you are done with your KB ideas and discussion you could get back to the point, which is not "Noemis KB" or "Noemis 101 for PvP". Nor if I am a better PvP player than one or all of you or not.

The point is how Caldari missile PvP in medium and large hulls will work out with a nerf of the only working platforms Caldari have atm. Its a matter of fact there are only 2 working hulls in this sizes, and only one system if you want to be competitive. Its also a matter of fact that this combo is going to get nerfed by CCP if they do what they announced in the OP.

My solution for this issue (which cant be denied to be an issue by anyone with their brains set right) would be to
1) first FIX all not working Caldari missile hulls and missile systems and then
2) afterwards check if the problem with HMLs and Drakes does still exist.

If it does CCP will have to find a way, which maybe will include an HML nerf. But I doubt there will be need for this. Apart from that I have yet to see proof for the assumption so many here take as a fact: the assumption of HML Drakes being so OP like those pure Gallente and pure Mini pilots say they are. Crosstrain and check yourself. And then you will maybe dont wonder anymore why so many Caldari pilots dont use a Drake but crosstrain to Winmatar or the like ... in the real game the Drake is just a solid ship. Nothing less, agreed, but also nothing more. Thats why its NOT outnumbering any other ship in most places in Eve, and the nullsec problem which does exist (admitted) seems to get solved by tactics and ideas too ..

Best regards.

So how do you explain me?

I fly the hole damn stack of them and agree with the changes.

Lol ! You are in fact implying that you contribute to the thread, whereas all you are doing is yelling insanities, like caldari only good ship for pvp is the drake, which is completely wrong, or hybrid are gallente weapons, which is completely wrong too.

Please, stop talking. When we are saying that the HML are OP because not in line with MEDIUM size LONG RANGE weapons, you start talking about the hurricane, which is currently nerfed, in this thread. And when this become clear, you fall back to HML are not OP because of short range weapons.

You are boring.