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The reality of the goon freighter ganking in Uedema and neighboring systems.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#241 - 2012-09-19 03:40:35 UTC
You honour ransoms? what blasphemy is this? Evil With the reputation of your alliance I expected more from you P

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#242 - 2012-09-19 03:46:43 UTC
WAIT! We can't stop here
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#243 - 2012-09-19 03:52:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Ghazu wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ghazu wrote:
With a ransom payment.

They don't even ask. They cargo scan and shoot if you are worth it.

Economics vOv

They'll ask you for 4 bil, you'll say no, and try to get away. Giving the freighter time to do that isn't really the best when your tackler will pop soon.

Or they can just pop you and take their chances. They might get 4 bil, or maybe none, or maybe 8 bil.


What if you bumped him off align instead of tackling? The clock on DC timer become your enemy I guess.
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#244 - 2012-09-19 03:54:39 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
BillyBanter wrote:
Once the sec status of the alt character is too low, they replace it with a new one.


Which is a bannable offence if they're recycling them.


you cant biomass a character with negative sec status. they are either using trial accounts and just letting the accounts lapse or turning the alts into cyno alts once they are done.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#245 - 2012-09-19 03:55:08 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
What if you bumped him off align instead of tackling? The clock on DC timer become your enemy I guess.

Yeah, there's various things you can do. Obviously if they're autopiloting they will be a good way from the gate, so if you bump them so they can't warp you should be good. But you're using precious seconds to try and negotiate with someone when you can try your luck at the (risk accepted therefore irrelevant) ganking-success-probability and then loot-drop-distribution games.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#246 - 2012-09-19 03:56:16 UTC
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
you cant biomass a character with negative sec status. they are either using trial accounts and just letting the accounts lapse or turning the alts into cyno alts once they are done.

The secret of our bad cynoing habits - random alts are being used, no wonder people jump into hostile fleets when they see "xxA Gankerxx as their cyno."

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#247 - 2012-09-19 04:00:30 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
you cant biomass a character with negative sec status. they are either using trial accounts and just letting the accounts lapse or turning the alts into cyno alts once they are done.

The secret of our bad cynoing habits - random alts are being used, no wonder people jump into hostile fleets when they see "xxA Gankerxx as their cyno."


If this si really happening, I really need to find a way to experience it once.
Ghazu
#248 - 2012-09-19 04:03:40 UTC
Duh we just get our elite pve on to fix the sec status.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Pipa Porto
#249 - 2012-09-19 04:51:44 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Breaking windows means more work for glaziers which is good for the economy? Big smile

Besides, I thought high-sec existed to keep null-sec supplied? How does interrupting the high<->null supply chain help in that regard?


When the entire game's economy is explicitly based on of replacing broken windows, breaking a window is good for the economy, yes.

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Pipa Porto
#250 - 2012-09-19 05:10:08 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
CCP didn't patch exhumer stupid, they just buffed the exhumers, they still die in a hilarious manner because fools still fit them for max yield and wonder why they die. See my sig.

They attempted to. At least give them credit for that.

Stupidity is an amazingly powerful final boss, it has many Final Forms that you have to defeat like some horribly sadistic grinding game where you need to hit the level cap, grind the uberweapons and break your damage limits to even have a chance at surviving the final boss' first few "easy" forms.


I didn't realize WoW's final boss was called Stupidity.

Huh, learn something new every day.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#251 - 2012-09-19 05:20:08 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
CCP didn't patch exhumer stupid, they just buffed the exhumers, they still die in a hilarious manner because fools still fit them for max yield and wonder why they die. See my sig.

They attempted to. At least give them credit for that.

Stupidity is an amazingly powerful final boss, it has many Final Forms that you have to defeat like some horribly sadistic grinding game where you need to hit the level cap, grind the uberweapons and break your damage limits to even have a chance at surviving the final boss' first few "easy" forms.

I didn't realize WoW's final boss was called Stupidity.

Huh, learn something new every day.

I was thinking final fantasy really, I don't think WoW has damage limits?

But they's only the biggest boss for now, in the expansion, "Winter Expansion", the new dungeon will open up featuring the new new final bosses Ignorance and Willful Idiocy. This tag team is sure to keep you entertained and paying repair bills until -

You learn how to farm them.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Pipa Porto
#252 - 2012-09-19 05:23:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
CCP didn't patch exhumer stupid, they just buffed the exhumers, they still die in a hilarious manner because fools still fit them for max yield and wonder why they die. See my sig.

They attempted to. At least give them credit for that.

Stupidity is an amazingly powerful final boss, it has many Final Forms that you have to defeat like some horribly sadistic grinding game where you need to hit the level cap, grind the uberweapons and break your damage limits to even have a chance at surviving the final boss' first few "easy" forms.

I didn't realize WoW's final boss was called Stupidity.

Huh, learn something new every day.

I was thinking final fantasy really, I don't think WoW has damage limits?

But they's only the biggest boss for now, in the expansion, "Winter Expansion", the new dungeon will open up featuring the new new final bosses Ignorance and Willful Idiocy. This tag team is sure to keep you entertained and paying repair bills until -

You learn how to farm them.


Fair point. That goddamn lightning dodging game. %^%$ 200 in a row. ^%^&%$&*(()@ I'll show you 200 in a row.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#253 - 2012-09-19 05:40:30 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
CCP didn't patch exhumer stupid, they just buffed the exhumers, they still die in a hilarious manner because fools still fit them for max yield and wonder why they die. See my sig.

They attempted to. At least give them credit for that.

Stupidity is an amazingly powerful final boss, it has many Final Forms that you have to defeat like some horribly sadistic grinding game where you need to hit the level cap, grind the uberweapons and break your damage limits to even have a chance at surviving the final boss' first few "easy" forms.

I didn't realize WoW's final boss was called Stupidity.

Huh, learn something new every day.

I was thinking final fantasy really, I don't think WoW has damage limits?

But they's only the biggest boss for now, in the expansion, "Winter Expansion", the new dungeon will open up featuring the new new final bosses Ignorance and Willful Idiocy. This tag team is sure to keep you entertained and paying repair bills until -

You learn how to farm them.


Fair point. That goddamn lightning dodging game. %^%$ 200 in a row. ^%^&%$&*(()@ I'll show you 200 in a row.

Heh, sometimes I wonder how that game got to FFXIV...

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Myxx
The Scope
#254 - 2012-09-19 05:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Myxx
It is not a 100 percent assured kill. If you know what you're doing and are in your own corporation, there are methods of putting the freighter into warp before they are able to shoot it.

I put this together in like, a minute and I don't even fly freighters or rapiers.


[Rapier, Spiderman]

Overdrive Injector System II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


If you know how CONCORD and other game mechanics work... ganking isn't an issue. I get the impression that most of the people complaining aren't actually aware of how ganking and the game in general actually function.

It also helps if you're not AFK and afk warping around. If you're AFK, you get no points and have no ability to complain when you pop and could prevent it with due research and preperation.
Dan Carter Murray
#255 - 2012-09-19 06:07:36 UTC
I don't think anyone here has actually played WoW.

Yes, use rapier to insta warp freighters.

No, goons don't recruit adults.

No, goons aren't "good" at pvp.

Yes, goons have a few think tank corps that come up with clever ways to make isk.

No, nothing interesting happens in nullsec.

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PeHD0M
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#256 - 2012-09-19 06:59:43 UTC
Bumping is a broken mechanic, ofc it should be fixed. Apart from that, bumping the target for a long period of time without shooting it should be petitionable, it is an obvious griefing.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#257 - 2012-09-19 07:15:35 UTC
I don't see why the freighters just don't log off. Unless they are AFK.

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Pipa Porto
#258 - 2012-09-19 07:28:21 UTC
William Walker wrote:
I don't see why the freighters just don't log off. Unless they are AFK.


William Walker wrote:
they are AFK.


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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#259 - 2012-09-19 07:33:03 UTC
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14665735

Another case for the fist of Darwin.
Nice drop.

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#260 - 2012-09-19 07:38:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Myxx wrote:
It is not a 100 percent assured kill. If you know what you're doing and are in your own corporation, there are methods of putting the freighter into warp before they are able to shoot it.

Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

etc.
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Reminds me of a big freighter evac out of Scalding Pass couple years back. 100+ primary/initiative flying escort trying to get the freighters to a titan 10 jumps out for a bridge - pilot starts screaming he's under attack when blue webs him for speed up.

FC was nervous as it was - that really helped keep everything calm and orderly - NOT Shocked

[transcript]
Clear coms, CLEAR COMS - where's the reds, where where!!!! I got overview glitch!! Where are they?!??!

[pause]

Wha..... You fn idiot... somebody shoot him ffs.

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