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Heads up for IE 6-9 users
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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-09-18 08:00:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2757760

Even this news item isn't really EvE related, I believe that it still has place in GD because of the severity and amount of affected users it touches even in here.

My personal recommendation would be to switch entire browser to either firefox or google chrome at least for the time it takes from MS to sort this out. Their approach of installing additional "programs" and "rules" to prevent browser exploiting feels rather odd and difficult solution for common internet user.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-09-18 08:01:52 UTC
a massive vulnerability in internet explorer? shocking

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Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-18 08:08:53 UTC
Wait... People actually use Internet Explorer?

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Hina Yamamoto
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-09-18 08:11:58 UTC
In german media: "Microsoft und BSI warnen vor IE-Nutzung" - "Microsoft and Federal Office for Information Security warn against IE usage".

IT-Specialists are warning against IE usage for ages. That's nothing really new, except for Microsoft now realise what ****** product they have here.

There is only one reason to use the IE. To download a good browser.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-09-18 08:30:10 UTC
Hina Yamamoto wrote:
In german media: "Microsoft und BSI warnen vor IE-Nutzung" - "Microsoft and Federal Office for Information Security warn against IE usage".

IT-Specialists are warning against IE usage for ages. That's nothing really new, except for Microsoft now realise what ****** product they have here.

There is only one reason to use the IE. To download a good browser.


IE6 (and somewhat 7) are the problems. IE8/9 has been good browser.
IE10 is immune to this vulnerability.

I did all those things already. And did it so I can only access 127.0.0.1 with IE. Big smile
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-09-18 08:36:32 UTC
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#7 - 2012-09-18 09:22:33 UTC
I browse the web with wget and notepad!

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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#8 - 2012-09-18 09:32:56 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I browse the web with wget and notepad!


Wimp. Real men use the telnet client and type the headers out by hand.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-09-18 09:41:24 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I browse the web with wget and notepad!


Wimp. Real men use the telnet client and type the headers out by hand.


...you mean take dial-up connection to nearest bbbs box to read messages, browse file areas and play games like nethack.

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Just Lilly
#10 - 2012-09-18 09:43:02 UTC
<3 iPad

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#11 - 2012-09-18 09:57:09 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I browse the web with wget and notepad!


Wimp. Real men use the telnet client and type the headers out by hand.

How did you solve the SSL obstacle?

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2012-09-18 11:46:28 UTC
IE, Infinitely Exploitable

Real men use Lynx to browse the internets, not so good for the pervs though Twisted

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#13 - 2012-09-18 11:54:02 UTC
So people actually use IE outside of using it to DL Chrome or Firefox?

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#14 - 2012-09-18 12:33:33 UTC
Every "Fix" they do on IE just opens more holes...

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Aethlyn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-09-18 12:35:45 UTC
Not like the other browsers haven't had similar issues as well (not necessary ActiveX of course, but plugins and/or scripting stuff).

If you don't click on each and every link you see in comments or in emails you're pretty much save anyway. If you're using IE9 (you shouldn't use any older version anyway), enable Tracking Protection and ActiveX filtering (bot can be found in the "tools" menu under "Security") and you're pretty much as save as you can get. Just don't enable ActiveX on sites you don't trust and you're fine.

Also there's nothing wrong for them providing workarounds for the time being till they're able to deploy a bugfix. Should they not do anything while working?

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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#16 - 2012-09-18 12:38:18 UTC
Korean websites often only load on IE, I got so sick of having to switch that I've jsut been IE for years now.

And I'll bet you guys think Korea is some technological paradise hehehe

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#17 - 2012-09-18 12:41:18 UTC
Sites only working on IE is just plain bad web design, there are standards for HTML and CSS for a reason.

I can understand it for corporate web apps, there's a lot of companies out there that solely use IE because of legacy software.

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Lord Ryan
True Xero
#18 - 2012-09-18 12:54:25 UTC
Safari FTW!

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Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-09-18 13:27:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
Aethlyn wrote:
Not like the other browsers haven't had similar issues as well (not necessary ActiveX of course, but plugins and/or scripting stuff).

If you don't click on each and every link you see in comments or in emails you're pretty much save anyway. If you're using IE9 (you shouldn't use any older version anyway), enable Tracking Protection and ActiveX filtering (bot can be found in the "tools" menu under "Security") and you're pretty much as save as you can get. Just don't enable ActiveX on sites you don't trust and you're fine.

Also there's nothing wrong for them providing workarounds for the time being till they're able to deploy a bugfix. Should they not do anything while working?


Yep this is very true... Personally I use "nightly" which is currently only 64bit development version available from firefox. It also opens me choice to install 64bit java. Wouldn't go to every site with this either and have installed "NoScript" addon to manually choose the sites I want to trust enough to let them run java/flash. It is all about risk management. Cons and pros...

What comes to workarounds they are always good, but if applying one is harder than installing another product, the purpose becomes unclear. Obviously anything is easy for someone who knows what they are doing. Some people have hard time updating their virus protection or answering simple questions operating system might ask now and then. "Common ppl" just want to browse and expect that everything works when you type url in and press enter.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-09-18 13:30:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Aethlyn wrote:
If you don't click on each and every link you see in comments or in emails you're pretty much save anyway.


That's actually easy since a lot of people like to use that one URL shortener service that pays to them. Not going to mention name because I hate it so much and you all already know name of that site.
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