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Can CCP Foil the Mining Bots by simply enabling it legitmately?
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Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-09-17 19:51:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Khorkrak
So we have Plex which is both a way to pay for the game with game money and real money redirecting funds that otherwise would go to ISK sellers back to CCP. Brilliant! Then there's the character bazaar where slackers can go a buy a character instead of training one up which they'd do anyway on eBay otherwise so CCP is smarter than most game companies and instead enables this while charging a fee in real money for it.

What about botting? In particular for mining. Would be be wise to enable this as a legitimate feature in the game with say a penalty to ship defenses to do it because of the required AI module so as to throw a bone to high sec gankers? Could something like this significantly diminish the allure of these cheat programs?

Why continue mining manually then? Well perhaps it would be like the difference between driving stick vs automatic. You can choose the best asteroids to mine if you control your ship directly etc.

Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-09-17 19:53:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
I imagine the stress on the server caused by widespread unregulated bot mining would be... considerable.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#3 - 2012-09-17 19:53:29 UTC
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE.

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-09-17 19:54:33 UTC
This won't end well. ^_^
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-09-17 19:55:23 UTC
No.
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-09-17 19:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Khorkrak
What I mean is this: you would buy a module like any other that would enable you to control your ship remotely like a drone to mine automatically while you say fly around in an orca or some other ship perhaps to shoot roots. I don't mean allowing 3rd party bot programs.

In fact you could control X barges with advanced skill Smile

Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/
SealteamXI
Z-Co.
#7 - 2012-09-17 19:56:48 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
So we have Plex which is both a way to pay for the game with game money and real money redirecting funds that otherwise would go to ISK sellers back to CCP. Brilliant! Then there's the character bazaar where slackers can go a buy a character instead of training one up which they'd do anyway on eBay otherwise so CCP is smarter than most game companies and instead enables this while charging a fee in real money for it.

What about botting? In particular for mining. Would be be wise to enable this as a legitimate feature in the game with say a penalty to ship defenses to do it because of the required AI module so as to throw a bone to high sec gankers? Could something like this significantly diminish the allure of these cheat programs?

Why continue mining manually then? Well perhaps it would be like the difference between driving stick vs automatic. You can choose the best asteroids to mine if you control your ship directly etc.


Ideologically horrible idea, but actually well thought out and justified.
gobbybobby
Negative-Impact
#8 - 2012-09-17 19:57:52 UTC
You can detect bots easier then detecting people selling there accounts on Ebay.

Down with the bots! Mining, ratting and complex running bots.
Kari Juptris
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2012-09-17 20:01:41 UTC
And we'd all laugh as the mineral index drops even lower....
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#10 - 2012-09-17 20:05:59 UTC
The only way to defeat the bots is to have mining in highsec nerfed into oblivion. Let's see the bots handle mining in lowsec and nullsec. Smile

MinerBumping.com
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-09-17 20:08:11 UTC
Just remember if something like this shows up one day that you saw it here first!

Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-09-17 20:09:09 UTC
James 315 wrote:
The only way to defeat the bots is to have mining in highsec nerfed into oblivion. Let's see the bots handle mining in lowsec and nullsec. Smile
Botters would continue to bot regardless if only because of the sheer volume of bots they can deploy at a given time, on the other hand the impact drastic nerfs to highsec mining would have on people properly playing the game would be devastating.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2012-09-17 20:09:36 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
Just remember if something like this shows up one day that you saw it here first!
No. We saw it in X² first.

In fact, if that's the gameplay you want, I can highly recommend the series.
Rengerel en Distel
#14 - 2012-09-17 20:09:37 UTC
James 315 wrote:
The only way to defeat the bots is to have mining in highsec nerfed into oblivion. Let's see the bots handle mining in lowsec and nullsec. Smile


It's funny that you think there aren't bots in low and null. Hmm, would i rather bot in high sec, where any person in local could be someone set to gank me, or in low/null, where when any person enters local, the script warps them to a safespot(s)?

As to the OP, no. Also, features and ideas is another forum.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2012-09-17 20:13:02 UTC
What's X²? Some game I assume. I didn't say that I liked the idea I simply proposed it.

Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2012-09-17 20:18:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Khorkrak wrote:
What's X²?
The predecessor to X³.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-09-17 20:31:37 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
What I mean is this: you would buy a module like any other that would enable you to control your ship remotely like a drone to mine automatically while you say fly around in an orca or some other ship perhaps to shoot roots. I don't mean allowing 3rd party bot programs.

In fact you could control X barges with advanced skill Smile

I think what everyone else means is NO.

Great idea, destroy the economy in game CCP, that's how you do it.


Either the topics in GD are getting dumber and dumber, or I'm just getting smarter every day. I imagine it's a bit of both.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#18 - 2012-09-17 20:40:10 UTC
Neither "slackers" nor PLEXers flood the market with ISK and/or materials. Bots do.
NO

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
stoicfaux
#19 - 2012-09-17 20:46:19 UTC
To be honest, if mining bots were legalized as a game mechanic, would the mineral market really be affected that much?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Robert De'Arneth
#20 - 2012-09-17 20:49:11 UTC
As a non AFK miner I find your idea horrid and would have me quitting in a mississippi second, and I am pretty sure most legit miners would quit. I get that most people do not like mining, but there are some of us who do not mind it. You would ruin the game for many of those people. I am not worried about this becoming part of the game, CCP has a hatred for botting, and they have a love of real life dollars. Dollars will will win out every time.

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