Warfare & Tactics

Hello there. I'm pretty new to the forums. Got a little dilemma atm.

I am casually exploring the northern regions of nullsec and i come across to many exploration/plexing ships. Mostly tengus.

The ones that fly solo usually jump to safe spots and cloak the second they see combat probes on dscan.

But there are some that dualbox 2x tengus that just stay there knowing i dont have the dps nor the tank to take out both ships.


My question is : What ship should i use to be able to get those ships? I can fly almost anything caldari, amarr,matar , just not gallente. T3's included. I fly solo.

The targets are exploring in guristas space so they are Kin/Th tanked and sometimes they have combat configs with 6 launchers.

I would need to tank 2 x 600 kin dps or lesser amounts of other kinds.
Do EM dmg mostly, since even with adaptive shielding sub, it's the lowest resist on tengu ( or Exp dmg but it's more tanked)
Be fast enough so they don't AB out of scram/web range

I've thought of lots of scenarios/ships to do the job, including Black Ops bs's but i'd rather seek advice from you seasoned combatants since i'm not much of a pvp-er myself.

A brawling XL-ASB sleipnir should get the job done very well and is cheap compared to some other options (pimped active vindi or something like that).
As you know that they will most likely be dealing kinetic damage, some of the gallente t2 options might be a good idea. A proteus or astarte might do it, or maybe even a deimos. You will want to pimp them however, and in addition to that the kin/therm tank of the tengus might be a problem for blasters, therefore I would probably go with the cheaper option of the sleipnir.

Seconding the Sleip, short of that get some friends a system back and something that can hold them down long enough for your friends to make it in.

If the Tengu is in a PLEX, chances are you won't be able to catch him. If you are able to catch him a smart PLEXer will start popping triggers while aligned out, forcing NPC spawns that will melt you in seconds as he knows that he can tank them longer than you. So you need to be quick, you need to be sneaky and you need alpha.

The best. most deadly set-up I've seen is an Arazu / Panther combo. You pre-scan the sites while your Panther sits outside the system but within Cyno range. When your victim springs the trap and warps into the PLEX, your Arazu fires the covert cyno outside the initial warp gate and jumps in to grab tackle. The Panther, or other BLOPs, jumps to the cyno once the tackle is made and, within a volley or two, the alpha of the Panther should have no problem overwhelming the tank of the Tengu.

I've also seen a Covert Tengu / Tornado combo work to great effect with the Covert Tengu doing the leg-work and holding tackle long enough for the Tornado to jump in from a neighboring system or a safe before finishing off the prey.

you people are overkilling the issue.
a shield cane with 2 neuts will shred a plexing tengu. use fusion ammo.

Hello guys. Thx ton for all the answers. Lots of usefull info in there.

But my problem is not with single pve Tengus. Those i kill with my pvp fit Tengu.

It's with the guys dualboxing tengus. Two of those ships deal way to much dps for me to be able to get one of them killed.

Manticore/nemesis as a tackler + any BC next door with a neut.

It seems the best thing to use against a ratting tengu is the nerf-bat.

Incredible nice editing on that one too.

Well worth a look!

Sleip is actually a horrible choice since it cannot cloak. Most of the time a kiting 10mn AB tengu will be zooming around the plex doing 500 m/s. And when you warp to that plex you arent garunteed to land in point range, it almost never happens. So he sees you land in the anom 40km off him and he warps off laughing. -1