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EVE Mogul [v2] - Profit Tracking & More

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Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#61 - 2012-10-30 17:20:47 UTC
JohnathanGalt wrote:
This is what that screen showed jsut a few seconds ago: API Status

Orders Cached Until: 2012-10-30 01:24:50
Journal Cached Until: 2012-10-30 00:54:50
Transactions Cached Until: 2012-10-30 00:55:03

We are already past that time, does it automatically updated, or do I have to do something to get that to update?


I checked the functions, and for some reason it wasn't filtering right. I tweaked it so it'll start pulling if all 3 caches are expired.
Just checked your data, and it says 2012-10-30 17:46:00 for the oldest cache. Seems to be pulling now!

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JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#62 - 2012-10-30 17:36:52 UTC
Yes it does. Thanks!
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#63 - 2012-10-30 20:25:02 UTC
I signed up and it shows my current market orders but not my wallet transactions. Does it take some time for this to populate?

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron

Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#64 - 2012-10-31 00:20:02 UTC
Ronix Aideron wrote:
I signed up and it shows my current market orders but not my wallet transactions. Does it take some time for this to populate?


I originally had it so it starts pulling transactions from when you created the account. Meaning if you add another character a week from now, it'll pull as much as it can from the previous week until you created your account.

I went ahead and removed all your information, and next API pull it'll pull 1000 transactions. (Any sell order over 2 days might not get calculated due to the database cleanup, all depending on if the stock gets insert in time). I've optimized my functions to handle more at a time, so I'm okay with it pulling the last 1000 for each user.

If any other person wants their character's refreshed for the full 1000, send me an evemail with your character id.

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Mu-Shi Ai
Hosono House
#65 - 2012-10-31 09:13:22 UTC
It doesn't seem like my data is being pulled from the API (though it does have my wallet total). Here's what the management page says:

Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Ronix Aideron
Zymurgy Corp.
#66 - 2012-10-31 11:30:07 UTC
It looks like all of the data is there now. I like the feel of the site and how the data is presented. I am such a data junkie.Lol

Start the day off slow and taper off from there.

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enterprisePSI
#67 - 2012-10-31 16:58:44 UTC
Great job, i really like it!

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psiĀ©

Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#68 - 2012-11-01 03:03:41 UTC
Mu-Shi Ai wrote:
It doesn't seem like my data is being pulled from the API (though it does have my wallet total). Here's what the management page says:

Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00


Just checked your information, seems like API didnt pull when you checked. It pulled on the next cronjob after you looked.
Your transactions and profit should be populated now.

@Ronix
Thank you very much! The more data the more I can work with it. Any requests for data to be displayed let me know and I'll find ways to incorporate them if they're possible.

@Enterprise
Thank you as well!

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JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#69 - 2012-11-02 12:31:33 UTC
Ok,
I have been using this fo a few days now and I would like ot offer some kudos/constructive criticisms. Overall, you have a great tool that is certainly headed in the right direction.

First the suggestions:

1. You need to clean up the interface a bit. While you have lots of good data, it is sometimes hard to figure out where to go to find that data.
2. Market Orders need to be sortable, and also have a column for the station they are at, and the percentage remaining. IE, I need to be able to sort them alphabetically, by the station or by price.
3. Need to be able to take a purchase "out of inventory" if it was for personal use, or in my case, ganked by the goons on a freighter
4. The profit graph is nice, but I would also like a table version of the same data, just to quickly get actual numbers (I know you can hover over each day), but a table is really effective at displaying this kind of data. I know you already have these numbers, it is just displaying them in a different way. Make sure to include an average profit per day!
5. Please add station info to the wallet transaction page.
6. More report options please. there are so many great reports you could generate with the data you have. Best selling item, more profitable items, average days to sell, a historical table of monthly and weekly profits....etc.

Kudos:

1. The investor report is a great idea, and I have never seen anything like it on other products. Very nicely implemented!
2. I am old school, and love the ability to print that you have built into a lot of the reports.
3. It is impressive that you built a market browser into the software. I am sure I will use this a ton.
4. I also like the leaderboards.
5. Great customer service, you guy have been very good about helping with questions and solving problems. That is key if you are looking to make money on this eventually. I would gladly pay at least 50m isk per month for this functionality. If you can improve it further it would be worth more.

Please feel free to contact me via evemail if you have any questions regarding my suggestions.

Regards,

JG
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#70 - 2012-11-02 22:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeronica
JohnathanGalt wrote:
Ok,
I have been using this fo a few days now and I would like ot offer some kudos/constructive criticisms. Overall, you have a great tool that is certainly headed in the right direction.

First the suggestions:

1. You need to clean up the interface a bit. While you have lots of good data, it is sometimes hard to figure out where to go to find that data.
2. Market Orders need to be sortable, and also have a column for the station they are at, and the percentage remaining. IE, I need to be able to sort them alphabetically, by the station or by price.
3. Need to be able to take a purchase "out of inventory" if it was for personal use, or in my case, ganked by the goons on a freighter
4. The profit graph is nice, but I would also like a table version of the same data, just to quickly get actual numbers (I know you can hover over each day), but a table is really effective at displaying this kind of data. I know you already have these numbers, it is just displaying them in a different way. Make sure to include an average profit per day!
5. Please add station info to the wallet transaction page.
6. More report options please. there are so many great reports you could generate with the data you have. Best selling item, more profitable items, average days to sell, a historical table of monthly and weekly profits....etc.

Kudos:

1. The investor report is a great idea, and I have never seen anything like it on other products. Very nicely implemented!
2. I am old school, and love the ability to print that you have built into a lot of the reports.
3. It is impressive that you built a market browser into the software. I am sure I will use this a ton.
4. I also like the leaderboards.
5. Great customer service, you guy have been very good about helping with questions and solving problems. That is key if you are looking to make money on this eventually. I would gladly pay at least 50m isk per month for this functionality. If you can improve it further it would be worth more.

Please feel free to contact me via evemail if you have any questions regarding my suggestions.

Regards,

JG



Thanks for the very constructive criticism! I will add those to my to-do list :).
As far as the reports, I am very interested in finding some "real world" investor report examples, so I can see what kind of information is useful. I have these ideas so far:


  • Net Asset Value over Time
  • Capital to profit ratio (Net asset value/profit)
There are a few more, I'll need to start writing them down though so I can remember them again :P.
I am going to add a whole stocking module, complete with: stock adjustment, net value, sources of stock, who's buying it, etc. If anyone has used google analytics (like I am with the site), I can see all the referring sites, and where the dropoff page is. Same concept, except you can see that goons bought 1billion worth of an item, for example. Could be useful for more things than just making money ;)
The market browser is also still a WIP, there is a lot to be fixed on it.

I am very happy to hear you're pleased with our support! I believe that even if the product isn't the best, but the support is awesome, you'll have happy customers anyway. (I'm still shooting for an awesome product though! ;))

I'll be gone for this weekend, but Monday I will be back coding. I'm hoping to have the stock module finished by next weekend, hopefully sooner, for testing.

Thanks all for the support! It feels great knowing that I'm making a product that can be appreciated by many!

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Cavalira
Habemus
#71 - 2012-11-09 21:54:33 UTC
Love it!
Mynril
BlackWatch Industrial Group
Memento Moriendo
#72 - 2012-11-14 16:07:42 UTC
going to give this a whirl today. looking forward to it! great job from what im seeing so far.
Siren Ebonlight
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2012-11-14 19:40:19 UTC
Mu-Shi Ai wrote:
It doesn't seem like my data is being pulled from the API (though it does have my wallet total). Here's what the management page says:

Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00



getting the same issue.
Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
#74 - 2012-11-15 11:00:16 UTC
Siren Ebonlight wrote:
getting the same issue.
All is working as intended, your API will not be pulled initially on signup. After an hour, it would be updated.
Lorraine Kovan
Skavabole Dragsters
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#75 - 2012-11-15 18:48:27 UTC
Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00

Been stuck with this for 4 hours I think.
SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#76 - 2012-11-17 03:25:40 UTC
Lorraine Kovan wrote:
Orders Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Journal Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
Transactions Cached Until: 0000-00-00 00:00:00

Been stuck with this for 4 hours I think.


Same for me What?
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#77 - 2012-11-17 03:31:10 UTC
I'm looking into it. Seems like maybe there is a timeout on API pulls.

I've been trying to catch everyone up, let me know if your API still hasn't pulled.

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RJBlues
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2012-11-18 20:12:19 UTC
Signed up yesterday, hasnt pulled for me yet.
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#79 - 2012-11-19 06:29:48 UTC
RJBlues wrote:
Signed up yesterday, hasnt pulled for me yet.


I just added some code to start a que for characters.

We're at that point where the script cant go through the current number of characters (we're almost at 150) in a decent amount of time. I upped the frequency of the API cronjob, hopefully that will give it enough time to go through each character.

I would like to give the script a good 12-24 hours, and see how it keeps up. We should be moving to stronger hardware soon, and that may help with the higher usage!

Thanks for hanging in there guys!

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Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
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#80 - 2012-11-22 17:33:30 UTC
I'll be offline for the majority of the Thanksgiving weekend, but will be able to periodically check in on things. Just thought I'd make a post with some updates for the next few weeks.

Next week we will be moving to some new hardware, which should allow us more power to do what we want. There may be a few hours of downtime, while the DNS servers propagate, but for the most part everything should go smoothly.

I've been contemplating on changing the name of the service and getting a .com for it. That will allow for more flexibility down the road, when we decide to add more features outside of the market realm.

If there are no objections to a name change, I'll be going through with that early next week.
I have also joined a PVP corp with this character, but there is no need to worry. I am still dedicated to this project, and was only using the tackledinbelt.com domain because we already had it set up.

Thanks everyone for their continued support! I hope to continue with the project as long as the interest is still there.

If you havn't already, and want to be updated with news, please join our mailing list: Market Mogul

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