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EVE Mogul [v2] - Profit Tracking & More
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Herdo
Radix Financial
#501 - 2014-12-31 00:31:28 UTC
Balador Sethir wrote:
I had a question about how some of the numbers are calculated for the profit graphs.

Is the profit line just [sale cost] - [purchase cost], or is it [sale cost] - [purchase cost] - [transaction costs]?

The second question is about the taxes line in the profit graph, I find the taxes for a specific day change over time. How are they calculated?

For example, if I look at today, I have a profit line, but my taxes are at 0. At some point today's taxes will start to increase, and at some point it will stop changing, but I can't figure out what is causing that to continue to increase long after the day is over.


Not the developer but I think I can answer your first question. EVE-Mogul does not calculate broker fees, so I believe your profit is [sale cost] - [purchase cost] - [taxes].

As for the taxes increasing, I'm not sure. Maybe the taxes are getting applied for the day bought rather than sold. So if I buy an item on Sunday, then sell it today, maybe the taxes are applied to Sunday and not today? That doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's a theory.

Everything seems to be on a delay. I can sell some items for a huge profit and then the next update comes along but the profits won't be included until the following update, or even the update after. Taxes seem to be on an even longer delay, so maybe it's just taking time to "catch up".
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#502 - 2014-12-31 01:51:59 UTC
Herdo wrote:
Balador Sethir wrote:
I had a question about how some of the numbers are calculated for the profit graphs.

Is the profit line just [sale cost] - [purchase cost], or is it [sale cost] - [purchase cost] - [transaction costs]?

The second question is about the taxes line in the profit graph, I find the taxes for a specific day change over time. How are they calculated?

For example, if I look at today, I have a profit line, but my taxes are at 0. At some point today's taxes will start to increase, and at some point it will stop changing, but I can't figure out what is causing that to continue to increase long after the day is over.


Not the developer but I think I can answer your first question. EVE-Mogul does not calculate broker fees, so I believe your profit is [sale cost] - [purchase cost] - [taxes].

As for the taxes increasing, I'm not sure. Maybe the taxes are getting applied for the day bought rather than sold. So if I buy an item on Sunday, then sell it today, maybe the taxes are applied to Sunday and not today? That doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's a theory.

Everything seems to be on a delay. I can sell some items for a huge profit and then the next update comes along but the profits won't be included until the following update, or even the update after. Taxes seem to be on an even longer delay, so maybe it's just taking time to "catch up".


There are delayed cache times for certain things yes. And you're correct, EVE-Mogul doesn't track broker fees either.

As for the taxes going up, while profit isn't, the site tracks taxes for everything. Even if you don't make a profit on an item (with stock or not), you did spend some isk on taxes, which is what the site sees and reports to you.

And the profit line, is pretty much a sum of profit that's calculated which comes from [sell]-[buy]-[taxes].

The hourly graph I believe reports on the hour prior, although "Today's Profit", once the cache has cycled, should report all up to date profits. The break down of timers is this:

Elite Members: 1minute
Premium Members: 5minutes
Standard Members: 15minutes.

All of that is pretty much the same site-wide time wise.

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Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#503 - 2015-01-03 10:42:27 UTC
While trying to upgrade mariadb, the server decided to not allow me to install. I have a rollback from yesterday in process, so we won't lose much of any data (if any). New users will have to re-register however.

Taking forever for the backup to restore though, I'll report back in a few hours with it's status.

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Tehg Rhind
Atlantic Innovations
#504 - 2015-01-03 22:48:30 UTC
account activation email is returning a 500 internal server error. Not sure if that's related
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#505 - 2015-01-04 20:05:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeronica
That issue should be fixed now, there was a small typo with the event firing and the listener not catching it. Reset password also received the fix.


I've deployed a new database cluster, which should spread the sql requests across currently 2 servers.

I've already seen an improvement of speed with API pulls, as well as basic browsing during extensive tasks being run in the background. If you care to know which server your data is coming from, you can see it in the footer.

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Tehg Rhind
Atlantic Innovations
#506 - 2015-01-05 03:51:19 UTC
Seems to be working now. Just waiting on the API queue, really excited. Also, I used to fly with you wayyyyyy back in the day. Took me a minute to realize that I recognized your name. You wouldn't know me by this name (on an alt). Anyways, cool to see you doing this now.
I amAlt
Blitz tech
#507 - 2015-01-05 16:54:37 UTC
500 Internal when going into transactions.
Your server has a problem :)

See link.
http://postimg.org/image/zegkt9wgf/
Esharan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#508 - 2015-01-05 18:38:58 UTC
Please make a simple free version.

Thanks,
liam overturf
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#509 - 2015-01-07 18:29:35 UTC
This is a dumb question, but what is the correct date format to use in the filters that accept a date? 1-1-2015 and 2015-1-1 don't seem to work.
Herdo
Radix Financial
#510 - 2015-01-07 19:03:44 UTC
liam overturf wrote:
This is a dumb question, but what is the correct date format to use in the filters that accept a date? 1-1-2015 and 2015-1-1 don't seem to work.



The filters aren't working for me right now either. At least not the "Custom Top Profit" filters. The graph reflects the filter, but the list on the right does not.

Also, the leaderboard seems to be messed up as well.
Balador Sethir
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Pandemic Horde
#511 - 2015-01-07 19:08:37 UTC
Jeronica wrote:


There are delayed cache times for certain things yes. And you're correct, EVE-Mogul doesn't track broker fees either.

As for the taxes going up, while profit isn't, the site tracks taxes for everything. Even if you don't make a profit on an item (with stock or not), you did spend some isk on taxes, which is what the site sees and reports to you.

And the profit line, is pretty much a sum of profit that's calculated which comes from [sell]-[buy]-[taxes].

The hourly graph I believe reports on the hour prior, although "Today's Profit", once the cache has cycled, should report all up to date profits. The break down of timers is this:

Elite Members: 1minute
Premium Members: 5minutes
Standard Members: 15minutes.

All of that is pretty much the same site-wide time wise.


Is there any possibility of including the brokers fees in some way in the profit calculations? Taxes represent just over 1/3 of total costs for most of my trades, without the broker fee all the reports and numbers I am getting from this site are so badly distorted as to make them practically useless.

I haven't worked with pulling API data for trades, so I have no idea if what I am asking for is possible or not? I assume there must be some reason broker fees are not included.
liam overturf
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#512 - 2015-01-07 21:30:58 UTC
Herdo wrote:
liam overturf wrote:
This is a dumb question, but what is the correct date format to use in the filters that accept a date? 1-1-2015 and 2015-1-1 don't seem to work.



The filters aren't working for me right now either. At least not the "Custom Top Profit" filters. The graph reflects the filter, but the list on the right does not.

Also, the leaderboard seems to be messed up as well.


What format are you using for dates? I just get an error message that it's an invalid date.
Herdo
Radix Financial
#513 - 2015-01-07 23:06:32 UTC
liam overturf wrote:
Herdo wrote:
liam overturf wrote:
This is a dumb question, but what is the correct date format to use in the filters that accept a date? 1-1-2015 and 2015-1-1 don't seem to work.



The filters aren't working for me right now either. At least not the "Custom Top Profit" filters. The graph reflects the filter, but the list on the right does not.

Also, the leaderboard seems to be messed up as well.


What format are you using for dates? I just get an error message that it's an invalid date.


For me, the filters are working in relation to the pie chart, but the list to the right doesn't update anymore. This is when using the "Custom Top Profit" feature. For instance, if I filter it to 1/6/2015 - 1/7/2015 it shows:

Item XXXXX - XB profit.


That would be nice, but it's not accurate. The list doesn't seem to update and always shows my "all time" most profitable items.
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#514 - 2015-01-08 15:44:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeronica
Herdo wrote:
liam overturf wrote:
Herdo wrote:
liam overturf wrote:
This is a dumb question, but what is the correct date format to use in the filters that accept a date? 1-1-2015 and 2015-1-1 don't seem to work.



The filters aren't working for me right now either. At least not the "Custom Top Profit" filters. The graph reflects the filter, but the list on the right does not.

Also, the leaderboard seems to be messed up as well.


What format are you using for dates? I just get an error message that it's an invalid date.


For me, the filters are working in relation to the pie chart, but the list to the right doesn't update anymore. This is when using the "Custom Top Profit" feature. For instance, if I filter it to 1/6/2015 - 1/7/2015 it shows:

Item XXXXX - XB profit.


That would be nice, but it's not accurate. The list doesn't seem to update and always shows my "all time" most profitable items.


I'll have a look at this, and the other filters.

Looks like it was just appending the new result to the end of the list. I adjust it so it'll clear the current table whenever a filter is applied.

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Herdo
Radix Financial
#515 - 2015-01-08 17:18:13 UTC
Jeronica wrote:
Herdo wrote:
liam overturf wrote:
Herdo wrote:
liam overturf wrote:
This is a dumb question, but what is the correct date format to use in the filters that accept a date? 1-1-2015 and 2015-1-1 don't seem to work.



The filters aren't working for me right now either. At least not the "Custom Top Profit" filters. The graph reflects the filter, but the list on the right does not.

Also, the leaderboard seems to be messed up as well.


What format are you using for dates? I just get an error message that it's an invalid date.


For me, the filters are working in relation to the pie chart, but the list to the right doesn't update anymore. This is when using the "Custom Top Profit" feature. For instance, if I filter it to 1/6/2015 - 1/7/2015 it shows:

Item XXXXX - XB profit.


That would be nice, but it's not accurate. The list doesn't seem to update and always shows my "all time" most profitable items.


I'll have a look at this, and the other filters.

Looks like it was just appending the new result to the end of the list. I adjust it so it'll clear the current table whenever a filter is applied.



That's exactly what it was doing actually. Thank you Jeronica. Big smile
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#516 - 2015-01-08 21:15:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeronica
Herdo wrote:



That's exactly what it was doing actually. Thank you Jeronica. Big smile



No problem!

In spirit of the new year, I'm offering a free months standard subscription to everyone who enters this promo code.
2015_profits

You can enter the code at: https://www.eve-mogul.com/user on the right hand side.

Premium/Elite subs will scale the 30d to 15days/10days respectively.
Expires on Jan 15.

If you haven't registered yet, https://www.eve-mogul.com/?promo=2015_profits will add the promo after you register.

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Herdo
Radix Financial
#517 - 2015-01-08 21:21:34 UTC
Jeronica wrote:
Herdo wrote:



That's exactly what it was doing actually. Thank you Jeronica. Big smile



No problem!

In spirit of the new year, I'm offering a free months standard subscription to everyone who enters this promo code.
2015_profits

You can enter the code at: https://www.eve-mogul.com/user on the right hand side.

Premium/Elite subs will scale the 30d to 15days/10days respectively.
Expires on Jan 15.

If you haven't registered yet, https://www.eve-mogul.com/?promo=2015_profits will add the promo after you register.


Very cool, thanks again.

I am having a small problem trying to add another character API. When I get to the "Select Desired Character" screen, there are no characters listed. All I can see is the "Submit" button.
Drope Quiz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#518 - 2015-01-08 21:38:07 UTC
Umm am i suppose i see something here because i can not get past this http://prntscr.com/5q3iit
Miss Eve2006
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#519 - 2015-01-08 21:57:30 UTC
Seem to be a displaybug (lack of padding), which can make buy/profit prices float into one.

Img: http://i.imgur.com/lQ5pxjq.png
Drope Quiz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#520 - 2015-01-08 22:07:38 UTC
I really want to use this but i think its bugged for me /:Straight