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EVE Mogul [v2] - Profit Tracking & More

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Shinda Tenshi
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#381 - 2014-07-13 12:24:26 UTC
First of all let me congratulate you on something that seems great. Still checking it but will probably sub to it
I have started a trial account today and i had one question (maybe i am too lazy though and cant find it myself:P)
Is there a way to see contracts/income from contracts?
I buy with one character mods and ships,then sell fully fitted ships with another character in contracts. Is there a way to see the profit relation between the two?

Ty in advance for your time.
Kuri Kurvora
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#382 - 2014-07-13 20:39:46 UTC
Registered yesterday, but this will be pretty helpful for me. Also going to buy that elite membership before my trial is gone.
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#383 - 2014-07-14 00:12:35 UTC
Shinda Tenshi wrote:
First of all let me congratulate you on something that seems great. Still checking it but will probably sub to it
I have started a trial account today and i had one question (maybe i am too lazy though and cant find it myself:P)
Is there a way to see contracts/income from contracts?
I buy with one character mods and ships,then sell fully fitted ships with another character in contracts. Is there a way to see the profit relation between the two?

Ty in advance for your time.


Currently, I don't have contract tracking in place yet. I have an idea of how I want to implement it but currently my time is tied up in responsibilities IRL. It is in the task list though!

@Kuri, sounds great! Glad the site could be of use :)

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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#384 - 2014-07-14 01:33:06 UTC
Do you mean tracking profit from trading on contracts? That would be wonderful, although I wonder if it is possible. If you need a well stocked list of completed contracts, you're welcome to use my API, just don't try looking through them ingame as it can be rather frustratig.
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#385 - 2014-07-14 01:36:06 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Do you mean tracking profit from trading on contracts? That would be wonderful, although I wonder if it is possible. If you need a well stocked list of completed contracts, you're welcome to use my API, just don't try looking through them ingame as it can be rather frustratig.


There have been a few people who has stated they would like this feature. I have a few hours free now so I'll probably work on it now.

It's mainly for people who buy the modules separately on the market via buy orders, then sell packaged ship contracts fit for alliance doctrines. Is this what you do Elizabeth?

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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#386 - 2014-07-14 03:38:03 UTC
I buy and sell itmems, mostly blueprints on contracts. It's a real mess. I don't think you can see research on the blueprints via the API though, huh? There are lots of people who buy and sell fitted ships via contracts so this could be of use to them too.
sir kumquat
Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration
Sorority
#387 - 2014-07-14 16:48:28 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
I buy and sell itmems, mostly blueprints on contracts. It's a real mess. I don't think you can see research on the blueprints via the API though, huh? There are lots of people who buy and sell fitted ships via contracts so this could be of use to them too.


Problem with that is applying a price to contract items. Works great if it's just one item in the contract, but after that it's a mess to accurately put a price on everything. Contracts are also open to abuse (private, even alliance contracts could be abused to inflate profit totals). That was the reason why I didn't add it previously, and also the reason why I'm still skeptical of adding that function.

I'll add the code anyway though, see how it pans out and then decide later if it's a good idea to keep it.

I'll be moving houses over the next week as well, not sure when I'll get internet at the new place but I'll try to keep up with the forums.
Pelagia
Stratton Oakmont Incorporated
Minmatar Fleet Associates
#388 - 2014-07-16 09:20:42 UTC
Just a quick suggestion, wouldn't it be better to allow the 7-day trial to provide the same functionalities as an Elite subscription?

Whilst the standard package is highly useful, there are other services which offer the same functionalities, and more, than that particular subscription, and so it's hard to gauge whether or not the additional features an Elite package provides is worth it without being able to try it out.
Kuri Kurvora
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#389 - 2014-07-19 21:54:04 UTC
Elite service bought.

Again, I must repeat myself: A damn nice job you did.


Do you plan to add a function to manually add stock and price of it? (So manufacturing tasks could be handled by this also)
Wafflehead
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#390 - 2014-07-19 23:00:00 UTC
There will be a problem when handling contracts

If the contract is one item then excellent, the price of the contract is the items buy cost.
If the contract contains 5 items and costs 3.2B how much did item 2 cost?.

Sure you could work out the profit over the 5 items and apply it to the 'profit' but you wouldn't really know the true profit of each item.
Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#391 - 2014-07-21 03:55:40 UTC
My two isk on the contract stuff... keep it off of Eve Mogul! I am all for enabling users to have the functionality they need to calculate their profits, but there are too many complications with contracts that make them incompatible with what Eve Mogul accomplishes. Users should take some measure of responsibility for developing their own profit metrics and integrating them with the service that Eve Mogul provides.
Wafflehead
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#392 - 2014-07-21 08:25:12 UTC
Abidal Trekt wrote:
My two isk on the contract stuff... keep it off of Eve Mogul! I am all for enabling users to have the functionality they need to calculate their profits, but there are too many complications with contracts that make them incompatible with what Eve Mogul accomplishes. Users should take some measure of responsibility for developing their own profit metrics and integrating them with the service that Eve Mogul provides.


Agreed or as me and Jeronica once discussed having a separate leader-board / stats for people that have contracts enabled.

Pure Trader = sell and buy orders
All Round Trader = sell and buy orders + contracts

But I don't see the point honestly.
Greedy Mutha
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#393 - 2014-07-22 00:25:02 UTC
not having api pulls and account valid, any ideas?
General Blowjob
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#394 - 2014-07-22 09:52:45 UTC
i got the message that my api is flagged what that means?
Kuri Kurvora
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#395 - 2014-07-22 11:41:04 UTC
Just wait for a fix, with today's patch, API has changed ...
CupCake Kittie
Big Pink Fluffly CupCakes
#396 - 2014-07-23 08:03:16 UTC
Still not working ?


Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
#397 - 2014-07-23 11:13:30 UTC
Kuri Kurvora wrote:
Just wait for a fix, with today's patch, API has changed ...

APIs have been unflagged and everyone should be set. :ccp: Please report back if otherwise.
CupCake Kittie
Big Pink Fluffly CupCakes
#398 - 2014-07-23 17:08:10 UTC
Tweety Bird wrote:
Kuri Kurvora wrote:
Just wait for a fix, with today's patch, API has changed ...

APIs have been unflagged and everyone should be set. :ccp: Please report back if otherwise.


my profits from today and yesterday dont seem to be showing altho any profits from yesterday could be due to the fact my sub run out.
but i know i have made profits today but mogul says 0.

After paying to the corp for mogul do i need to update api or somthing ?.
Greedy Mutha
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#399 - 2014-07-23 23:07:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Greedy Mutha
I still have nothing and have active elite account. Still flagged. Everything showing as 0.
Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#400 - 2014-07-23 23:15:28 UTC
I redid my APIs (they were messy anyways), I'm getting pulls, but no profit data is generating from the orders.