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EVE Mogul [v2] - Profit Tracking & More

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Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
#301 - 2014-03-26 19:39:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tweety Bird
Rodia Akara wrote:
Just to notify you, the subscription takes way too long. It's been 24h and it yet hasn't pulled your API to verify that I paid for Elite.

Apart from that I love your website.
API Verification has hit a snag and will be resolved later tonight. I confirmed that your payment went through, and will add the lost time to your sub.

On another note, there are lots of changes coming soon. Big smile
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#302 - 2014-03-27 04:43:23 UTC
Temporarily patched the subscription issue. I'll have a cleaner system in version 1.1 of the site (coming soon!)

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Wafflehead
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#303 - 2014-03-27 11:21:38 UTC
Raano Thorson wrote:
Currently you can adjust stock after something has been added to stock via a buy order. If something is sold that was not purchased via a market order it cannot be tracked for profit. Instances where this occurs is when items are purchased via contract.

Can something be implemented to consider this? Ie. Add x item to stock with the buy price entered.

Right now in order for me to do this I need to sell an item on market, then buy it. Wait for the API to pull then edit the quantity. I forget to do this with some high value items and the profit is therefor not tracked.

I realize this could be exploited, though so could editing qty in stock in general.

Th abiltity to edit stock would also benefit manufacturers tracking their profits.


The problem with this is that someone can just 'give' an item to the character being tracked and sell it for X millions which would show a massive profit.

As it is, editing the stock is open to abuse.

The whole idea of this project/site is to track market transactions. Not contracts or deals on the side. Maybe they can introduce a market side and a 'sandbox' side to let people edit and do what they want (pretty pointless).

Having a leader board and ability to edit/add/amend stock is just crazy.
Rodia Akara
Who needs probes anyways
#304 - 2014-03-27 12:05:25 UTC
Now there's another problem, the cache doesn't seem to be updated every minute, like it's supposed.
Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
#305 - 2014-03-27 16:15:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tweety Bird
Rodia Akara wrote:
Now there's another problem, the cache doesn't seem to be updated every minute, like it's supposed.
CCP only allows API pulls once every hour, that's the limitation you're seeing. We, or any other third party, can't speed that up. The cache is working as intended.
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#306 - 2014-03-27 16:36:07 UTC
Wafflehead wrote:
Raano Thorson wrote:
Currently you can adjust stock after something has been added to stock via a buy order. If something is sold that was not purchased via a market order it cannot be tracked for profit. Instances where this occurs is when items are purchased via contract.

Can something be implemented to consider this? Ie. Add x item to stock with the buy price entered.

Right now in order for me to do this I need to sell an item on market, then buy it. Wait for the API to pull then edit the quantity. I forget to do this with some high value items and the profit is therefor not tracked.

I realize this could be exploited, though so could editing qty in stock in general.

Th abiltity to edit stock would also benefit manufacturers tracking their profits.


The problem with this is that someone can just 'give' an item to the character being tracked and sell it for X millions which would show a massive profit.

As it is, editing the stock is open to abuse.

The whole idea of this project/site is to track market transactions. Not contracts or deals on the side. Maybe they can introduce a market side and a 'sandbox' side to let people edit and do what they want (pretty pointless).

Having a leader board and ability to edit/add/amend stock is just crazy.


I've recently decided I am not going to implement any contracts/trading tracking into the site. It's just too open for exploitation and I want the site to be seen as a reliable source of data for investors/traders alike. I'll also be removing the option to adjust stock, instead you can only remove stock by entering a used quantity and It'll remove it for you. Example where that'll be useful: Say you're trading plex, but also buy plex for your accounts. You don't want to have the plex you used as gametime to be used when tracking profits.

As wafflehead said, the purpose of the site has always been to track market trading. I may implement a manufacturing side later on, but if I add it I want it to incorporate all aspects (tracking the mineral input, monitoring manufacturing jobs, etc).

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Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#307 - 2014-03-27 20:03:10 UTC
Jeronica wrote:
Wafflehead wrote:
Raano Thorson wrote:
Currently you can adjust stock after something has been added to stock via a buy order. If something is sold that was not purchased via a market order it cannot be tracked for profit. Instances where this occurs is when items are purchased via contract.

Can something be implemented to consider this? Ie. Add x item to stock with the buy price entered.

Right now in order for me to do this I need to sell an item on market, then buy it. Wait for the API to pull then edit the quantity. I forget to do this with some high value items and the profit is therefor not tracked.

I realize this could be exploited, though so could editing qty in stock in general.

Th abiltity to edit stock would also benefit manufacturers tracking their profits.


The problem with this is that someone can just 'give' an item to the character being tracked and sell it for X millions which would show a massive profit.

As it is, editing the stock is open to abuse.

The whole idea of this project/site is to track market transactions. Not contracts or deals on the side. Maybe they can introduce a market side and a 'sandbox' side to let people edit and do what they want (pretty pointless).

Having a leader board and ability to edit/add/amend stock is just crazy.


I've recently decided I am not going to implement any contracts/trading tracking into the site. It's just too open for exploitation and I want the site to be seen as a reliable source of data for investors/traders alike. I'll also be removing the option to adjust stock, instead you can only remove stock by entering a used quantity and It'll remove it for you. Example where that'll be useful: Say you're trading plex, but also buy plex for your accounts. You don't want to have the plex you used as gametime to be used when tracking profits.

As wafflehead said, the purpose of the site has always been to track market trading. I may implement a manufacturing side later on, but if I add it I want it to incorporate all aspects (tracking the mineral input, monitoring manufacturing jobs, etc).


As someone who uses this service to track market trading profit solely, and as data for investors, I bloody well agree!
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#308 - 2014-03-27 20:19:22 UTC
Hopefully they will update a crest entrence for contracts, than you would have verified info, not?

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#309 - 2014-03-27 23:33:35 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Hopefully they will update a crest entrence for contracts, than you would have verified info, not?


It's not that I can't access the data (you can see contracts in evemon, for example), its just you can create contracts to alts way to easily. Then there's the conflict of different items in a contract, can't just divide the price by the items. At the moment, I want to concentrate on the in/out of buy and sell transactions. I may open up the possibility in the future for contracts/manufacturing support in the future, but if I can't support it 100%, I'd rather not add it.

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#310 - 2014-03-28 14:21:01 UTC
Jeronica wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Hopefully they will update a crest entrence for contracts, than you would have verified info, not?


It's not that I can't access the data (you can see contracts in evemon, for example), its just you can create contracts to alts way to easily. Then there's the conflict of different items in a contract, can't just divide the price by the items. At the moment, I want to concentrate on the in/out of buy and sell transactions. I may open up the possibility in the future for contracts/manufacturing support in the future, but if I can't support it 100%, I'd rather not add it.


Aha, good point.

Seen the update on crest market info posted here > link?

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#311 - 2014-03-28 16:45:55 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Jeronica wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Hopefully they will update a crest entrence for contracts, than you would have verified info, not?


It's not that I can't access the data (you can see contracts in evemon, for example), its just you can create contracts to alts way to easily. Then there's the conflict of different items in a contract, can't just divide the price by the items. At the moment, I want to concentrate on the in/out of buy and sell transactions. I may open up the possibility in the future for contracts/manufacturing support in the future, but if I can't support it 100%, I'd rather not add it.


Aha, good point.

Seen the update on crest market info posted here > link?


Yes, I've been researching it and am looking into incorporating it into probably 1.1.1. Won't be in 1.1.0.

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Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#312 - 2014-03-29 05:24:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeronica
Just moved over R1.1.0.

Let me know if you find any bugs at all. I've spent the past hour or so looking for as many as I can.

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Minerva Bian
Starchild Industries
#313 - 2014-03-29 10:13:10 UTC
Something seems broken as far as Today's Profit calculation now. As of 10:10 am my transaction log is showing 3 sales since midnight with a total profit of 111,806,845.51, but the Today's Profit field shows 166,935,263.18. Accountname JX.
Bubbles Vuld
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#314 - 2014-03-29 14:32:13 UTC
I seem to be unable to change my password.
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#315 - 2014-03-29 15:25:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeronica
Minerva Bian wrote:
Something seems broken as far as Today's Profit calculation now. As of 10:10 am my transaction log is showing 3 sales since midnight with a total profit of 111,806,845.51, but the Today's Profit field shows 166,935,263.18. Accountname JX.


It entered 4 rows of profit total for 2 rows of transactions, quite odd. It was during the transition phases when I was doing the final testings. Seems to be a very isolated incident. Should be in sync now, but I'll look more into it and see if it's more than this random occurrence.

I've also changed the links in the FAQ to ones that work. Sorry about that. Password reset page is: https://www.eve-mogul.com/forgot-password

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Bubbles Vuld
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#316 - 2014-03-30 07:45:37 UTC
I tried changing my password following that link you posted yet once I click on "change password" nothing happens.
Jeronica
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#317 - 2014-03-30 16:58:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeronica
Bubbles Vuld wrote:
I tried changing my password following that link you posted yet once I click on "change password" nothing happens.


I've gone through the process of changing my password and am experiencing the same issue as you. I'll investigate further when I get a chance as I'm away from my home for the next few days. Please check your mail when you get the chance.

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Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#318 - 2014-03-31 17:20:43 UTC
Since 1.1.0 "Yesterday's Top Traders" doesn't seem to be populating. Anyone else?
Luthias Austrene
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#319 - 2014-03-31 23:36:17 UTC
Abidal Trekt wrote:
Since 1.1.0 "Yesterday's Top Traders" doesn't seem to be populating. Anyone else?

^same, and Current Week's Traders isn't showing either.

Also, the dates on my Last 12 months profits page aren't showing up correctly, some are doubled up, some are missing.

Also, did the number of registered/subbed users actually double in a week, or is this a bug?
Garric Shadowbane
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#320 - 2014-04-01 04:56:43 UTC
Garric Shadowbane wrote:
I like how the website notifies me of completed orders. But it only lists orders that were bought.

Is there a way to actively show my completed sell orders?



Can you guys help me out with this? My trade is completely based on sell orders and this would be a huge asset to me.

Thanks.