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[LOAN] 7 B, Rate 10%

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Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#1 - 2012-09-15 08:15:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Kell Tarhun
Hello fellow MD investors!

I am looking for a 7 B loan to increase my trading ability with regional -A- hubs trading.

Summary
Loan size: 7B (7 Billion ISK)
Min Investment: 250M
Rate: 10%
Collateral: None
Start date: Oct 1th (earlier if ISK received later)
Maturity: November 1th

What do i need the ISK for?I currently have about 3B in ISK which i use for regional hub trading but I need more ISK to increase my trading ability.
I trade between regions and am averaging 40-100 M ISK profit per day, depending on the length I play.

With the inject of 7B I can effectively trade more and make more ISK. Means more ISK for me and a nice easy profit for the investors.

Terms
The loan will start on Oct 1th as long as all ISK has been received. (Will start later if waiting for ISK).
If you wish to pull out before the 30 days you will not receive any interest.
10% interest will be paid within 48 hours in November. (+30 days from start date if loan starts later)

I will keep you up to date on this thread of my progress or via evemail if that's your preference

Risks
~ I do not carry more than 1B ISK worth of items at one time on my alts. (limits the risk of getting popped).
~ No profit - I don't see this happening, if it does then the investment & interest will be paid out of my own pocket.
~ Wardec - my transports alts belong to a NPC's corp.

FAQ.
Q: Previous Loans?
A: None. This is practicly first time however i got over 1 year of expierience in market areas of -A-

Q: Alts? Mains?
A: Kell Tarhun is my main character. My alts and transport account i keep confidential far away from curious eyes for station trading / hauling / freighter.

Q: No collateral?
A: I have an obelisk but i need it for station trading.

Q: Will you steal my ISK?
A: I have no interest in stealing or running away with the ISK. I have no reason to do so. You guys will be helping me make ISK so in turn i am willing to pay the interest.


Please feel free to ask any questions.
Kell Tarhun
flakeys
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-09-15 08:28:17 UTC
421 corp mates and no one can give you a 7 B loan ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Lelob
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-09-15 08:36:58 UTC
I will give you this loan but I first require the obelisk as a goodwill gesture.
Hinkledolph
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-09-15 08:37:31 UTC
NO!!!
Pusswah
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-09-15 08:41:50 UTC
I might consider loaning you 20b, but you would of course need to satisfy the usual requirements for ISRAD membership to prove where ur loyalties lie.

pm T'Renn in game for info~~~
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#6 - 2012-09-15 08:47:31 UTC
flakeys wrote:
421 corp mates and no one can give you a 7 B loan ?

This.

If your own corp mates do not trust you enough to loan you a paltry 7B, then why should anyone else?
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#7 - 2012-09-15 09:03:46 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
flakeys wrote:
421 corp mates and no one can give you a 7 B loan ?

This.

If your own corp mates do not trust you enough to loan you a paltry 7B, then why should anyone else?


Market investments i do on my own. Most corporations i was in care of shooting to protect their own business.
I do not care personally about corporations, alliances that much. Honestly i know just 2 guys from my current corporation. Me separate pleasures from work. Making isk is kind of work for me in Eve Online. Thats why this post to find investors and improve isk/h profit.
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#8 - 2012-09-15 09:10:04 UTC
Pusswah wrote:
I might consider loaning you 20b, but you would of course need to satisfy the usual requirements for ISRAD membership to prove where ur loyalties lie.

pm T'Renn in game for info~~~


"T'Renn is either offline or otherwise unreachable."
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#9 - 2012-09-15 09:17:53 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
Market investments i do on my own. Most corporations i was in care of shooting to protect their own business. I do not care personally about corporations, alliances that much. Honestly i know just 2 guys from my current corporation. Me separate pleasures from work. Making isk is kind of work for me in Eve Online. Thats why this post to find investors and improve isk/h profit.

While that may explain your situation, it does not really help your case.

If you have few friends and no real ties to the community (be that your corp/alliance, MD or EVE in general) then you have little to lose by scamming.

7b is a lot to ask from strangers without any evidence to suggest you would pay it back. A smaller loan, or one with collateral, would be more appropriate.
flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-09-15 09:20:19 UTC
Panda Legion , kindergarten CAOD is that way ->

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#11 - 2012-09-15 09:21:08 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Kell Tarhun wrote:
Market investments i do on my own. Most corporations i was in care of shooting to protect their own business. I do not care personally about corporations, alliances that much. Honestly i know just 2 guys from my current corporation. Me separate pleasures from work. Making isk is kind of work for me in Eve Online. Thats why this post to find investors and improve isk/h profit.

While that may explain your situation, it does not really help your case.

If you have few friends and no real ties to the community (be that your corp/alliance, MD or EVE in general) then you have little to lose by scamming.

7b is a lot to ask from strangers without any evidence to suggest you would pay it back. A smaller loan, or one with collateral, would be more appropriate.


i make steady small profits each day. My alliance history is pretty obvious, i am connected with -A- territories for more than 1 year. All things considered it is obvious i make profits of those regions for long amount of time.
I see reasons to make them higher. Those who want to participate in profits i offer 10% share.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#12 - 2012-09-15 09:54:18 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
I currently have about 3B in ISK which i use for regional hub trading but I need more ISK to increase my trading ability. I trade between regions and am averaging 40-100 M ISK profit per day, depending on the length I play.
Kell Tarhun wrote:
i got over 1 year of expierience in market areas of -A-
Kell Tarhun wrote:
i make steady small profits each day. My alliance history is pretty obvious, i am connected with -A- territories for more than 1 year. All things considered it is obvious i make profits of those regions for long amount of time.

I do not think it is obvious. Could you explain it further?

If you have over 1 year of experience trading in this way for steady profits, then why do you only have 3b, a freighter and no other significant assets to show for it?

Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#13 - 2012-09-15 10:05:56 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Kell Tarhun wrote:
I currently have about 3B in ISK which i use for regional hub trading but I need more ISK to increase my trading ability. I trade between regions and am averaging 40-100 M ISK profit per day, depending on the length I play.
Kell Tarhun wrote:
i got over 1 year of expierience in market areas of -A-
Kell Tarhun wrote:
i make steady small profits each day. My alliance history is pretty obvious, i am connected with -A- territories for more than 1 year. All things considered it is obvious i make profits of those regions for long amount of time.

I do not think it is obvious. Could you explain it further?

If you have over 1 year of experience trading in this way for steady profits, then why do you only have 3b, a freighter and no other significant assets to show for it?



I am not sure if you taking my serious.
If u going for your own just like i am you need to put effort:
- I need to find out where profits are
- I need to find out demand
- I need to organise everything on your own to prevent some organised or lonely bastards make you loose what u achieved
- I need to pay every mount plexes for accounts i am using
- I need to organise ships for transports
- i need to keep self in shape for defending what i already have
- I need to spend my own time to make profit of what i got

Sure i got over 1 year epierience of trading in this area with steady profits and i build solo my own infrastucture for it having lots of random problems while that.
I think my current result is pretty good. Profits are stable for me and want to increase them.
I got assets in jita however not going to offer them as collaterial as i am using them on my own.
Running everything cost - plex, environment and secure way of moving assets.
I do not look for competition in what i am doing but for investors. Currently i am more than sure injection of isk would make y personal profits higher. Thats what this post is all about.
Pusswah
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-09-15 10:07:41 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
Pusswah wrote:
I might consider loaning you 20b, but you would of course need to satisfy the usual requirements for ISRAD membership to prove where ur loyalties lie.

pm T'Renn in game for info~~~


"T'Renn is either offline or otherwise unreachable."

He's probably in his photography studio.


Keep trying.
Blueprint Seller
Bring Me Sunshine
#15 - 2012-09-15 10:14:34 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
No collateral

I suggest you take another look at your assets.

If you find anything you are not making use of then you need to either:

a) Liquidate it to reduce the need for obtaining a loan.

b) Put it up for collateral to reduce the cost and difficulty of obtaining a loan.

If you find some collateral then I'd be happy to offer you a loan for less than 10%, but otherwise you have nothing to offer me but weak promises and unproven figures.
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#16 - 2012-09-15 10:31:57 UTC
Blueprint Seller wrote:
Kell Tarhun wrote:
No collateral

I suggest you take another look at your assets.

If you find anything you are not making use of then you need to either:

a) Liquidate it to reduce the need for obtaining a loan.

b) Put it up for collateral to reduce the cost and difficulty of obtaining a loan.

If you find some collateral then I'd be happy to offer you a loan for less than 10%, but otherwise you have nothing to offer me but weak promises and unproven figures.



Well to be honest i am not going to change my offer as it will cut me down from profits.
To answer to your points. I am doing trading because i am patient and liquidating assets and my investments for your private security is bad deal for me.
So your point a) i find more political than market. You do not make rapid moment in working trade environment.

I am offering profit
In my opinion average and decent 10%.

I am not in need to get isk. I can simply wait 2-3 more months and achieve what i plan at the moment without any help from outside. However i belive market got something to offer to push up my investments as i will pay in return 10% profit of invested isk.

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#17 - 2012-09-15 10:35:32 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
I am not sure if you taking my serious.
If u going for your own just like i am you need to put effort

....

I am most certainly taking your serious.

I fully understand the effort involved in making isk.

I am asking questions in an effort to find out if you are motivated, honest and competent.

Kell Tarhun wrote:
I do not look for competition in what i am doing but for investors. Currently i am more than sure injection of isk would make y personal profits higher. Thats what this post is all about.

If you are attempting to raise money from strangers then your post needs to be more about what other people believe and less about what you believe.
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#18 - 2012-09-15 10:43:09 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Kell Tarhun wrote:
I am not sure if you taking my serious.
If u going for your own just like i am you need to put effort

....

I am most certainly taking your serious.

I fully understand the effort involved in making isk.

I am asking questions in an effort to find out if you are motivated, honest and competent.

Kell Tarhun wrote:
I do not look for competition in what i am doing but for investors. Currently i am more than sure injection of isk would make y personal profits higher. Thats what this post is all about.

If you are attempting to raise money from strangers then your post needs to be more about what other people believe and less about what you believe.


There is no sense to put personal arguments in market post or spam me.
Offer is transparent in my first post. here. Feel free to contact me if you are interested.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#19 - 2012-09-15 10:59:04 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
There is no sense to put personal arguments in market postor spam me.
Offer is transparent in my first post. here. Feel free to contact me if you are interested.

You are in the "Market Discussions" forum. If you do not want to discuss your loan then maybe you have chosen the wrong place to ask for it.
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#20 - 2012-09-15 11:10:08 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Kell Tarhun wrote:
There is no sense to put personal arguments in market postor spam me.
Offer is transparent in my first post. here. Feel free to contact me if you are interested.

You are in the "Market Discussions" forum. If you do not want to discuss your loan then maybe you have chosen the wrong place to ask for it.


There is so many griefers and spammers. And to be honest i haven't add anything new to my first post while conversation with you. I do not find my psychological arguments that much important. I run business and i am more about numbers.
Good impression, positive PR - it is not me. Maybe it appears in reader mind , but who knows what more. If you interested in investing lets make it. i am not here to bore whole market community using syntax figures.
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