EVE General Discussion

Had the logoff problem been fixed the jf would be dead and it would be a non issue if he leaves his corp in space or no. The logging off is a eve pvp problem. Not just a empire issue.


As for growing a pair, I lived in 0.0 for over 6 years. I have done every type of combat in eve.

You couldn't even lift mine up.

Logging off to avoid combat after you have jumped threw a gate into hostiles shouldnt be a option.

Eve is the only MMO I've ever played that supported the concept of logging to avoid combat you're already pretty much smack dab in the middle of. If the GMs and DEVs really wanted to keep this mechanic in game to protect their customers monopoly moneys investments, then it seems p funny that it's the only mechanic in place to do so. You can't report scammers and get your money back, you can't report people harassing your pos and get reimbursed for fuel, and if you for some reason actually legitimately disconnect from game and lose something pricey, most likely you're not going to get it back through petitions. I don't quite see why you can fly about in an expensive ship with (in scenarios like the one mentioned) total lack of responsibility for it and be immune to just about anything but a semi decent sized fleet that's able to mobilize in less than 30 seconds.

Yea, sure, you can just camp the spot that the person logged out at. How often does this work? Probably 1/5. The other 4 times they'll log out before even beginning warp back to their original position, or come in with a fleet of 50 scorpions 2 days later when they can actually get off their lazy butts and organize 50 scorpion pilots for a 5 minute op.

In any other MMO I've tried this would be a clear violation of mechanics abuse and would either constitute account warnings or temporary bans. Is it destroying our eve experience? No. Is it a really annoying loophole in mechanics that should have been cleared up years ago? Sure. Is the fact that there's still a thread about it years later even though fixing it would take no time at all freaking hillarious? Absolutely. Somewhere, there just needs to be a check that causes a logged off pilot that becomes aggressed to be given the same 15 minutes in space timer they would be given if they were logged in. Simple, easy, wouldn't waste much dev time.

Actually no. It's not really a thread on the topic at all. It's one bitter corp who erupted tears because they couldn't kill a freighter in high-sec.

They could just as easily had an inty on lo-sec side and pointed the freighter on the cyno. Did they? Nope.

They chose to gate camp empire knowing it was the pipe for the war-decced corp and ALSO knowing that he could log and de-corp.

That's fail on their part.

Any game mechanic employed to the advantage of the agressor/aggressee is legit until CCP rules otherwise.

I raised this point already and this is just one example

eg: War-deccers camp stations and if they get blobbed they dock. THIS is a game mechanic that could be changed but we don't because the leets would ***** and moan about it. The majority of empire doesn't give a rats fig.

I will say however, maybe instead of logging to avoid aggress, maybe gate jumps put people inside 2.5, if you're aggressed you can jump back. You could, if planned properly, nail him either side. Gives the aggressee a chance to run AND the aggressor a chance to nail the target.

Dunno. I think it's a storm in a tea-cup. It's empire and empire has different mechanics. War-deccing in empire requires accepting others use game mechanics and you can also use those same mechanics to your advantage.

It's a 2-way street.

Thus making it a thread on this particular topic. I'm not saying this particular instance isn't funny. It just happens alot.



Yes, point it with an inty while it's in a POS bubble or on a station. They will laugh as you die and wait out the 15 minute timer before heading to highsec.



I'm not going to disagree here, but not bringing things up that we want changed isn't going to get them changed.



I don't even know where to begin with what's wrong with this statement.



It happens everywhere.

A question that is sorta related to this topic of complaint. Is the complaint the target got away or you lost the kill mail. If the issue is related to a kill mail score then would you have the outrage if the pilot self destructed which still denies you the kill?

I ask because I've seen several freighters pointed who self destruct and the tears that fill local from the killers are massive.

Logging off is an accepted game mechanic. You can either invest your time in learning the mechanics that nullify or make it harder or you can keep crying about it.

The JF pilot logged off to avoid death. Lame. Not complaining about no killmail. On a sidenote, if you are aggressed and you self-destruct you should produce a killmail also.

Sweet Baby Jesus. The rage is strong with this one.

There are 2 ways to deal with this. Crying on forums is not one of them.

1. Get yourself a cheap T1 BS, insrure it, and fit it with smartbombs. Sit it on the gate. MAke sure all your fleet mates are out of smartbomb range. (Duh). When WT comes through, activate smartbombs. Congrats, you now have aggro on the WT. If he logs, you have aggro and can scan him out with probes for 15 minutes. This will result in the loss of the BS due to CONCORDOKKEN.

2. If he doesn't log out, insta-locking interceptor. Field a fleet of BCs with utility highs, and fit them with remote sensor boosters. Boost your inty to less than 1 second locking time. When JF uncloaks, inty points him.

ahaha pot. kettle. black.
I am warming my poor cold hands on the fire of your impotent rage. I am not defending logging off. I am mocking you for your inability to adapt to it and use it to your advantage.