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An Eve Memorial: The Ring of Fire

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Vespiidius
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#81 - 2012-09-16 01:43:45 UTC
I had never played another MMO before Eve and one of my first memories was of players paying tribute to another player who had passed. I stopped and thought, wow, this is something special. To have people invest so much in their virtual world that ripples and tides from the real world affect to profoundly, makes it someplace wonderful. This is a great idea. I hope that CCP can make this happen.
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#82 - 2012-09-16 08:48:07 UTC
When I first started playing EVE back in 2007, I was mining in a belt in minatar space, there was a shuttle and it had been left by an EVE player's husband as a tribute to his wife because she loved the game but had died of cancer.

I cant remember the details because it was so long ago.

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-09-16 09:05:43 UTC
I'm wondering if as much as a nice thought as this is, why has this not happened for others that passed away? There have been many many people pass away but non got this kind of recognition.

I believe that is unfair.
PRO CYLON
The Logs Show Nothing
#84 - 2012-09-16 09:24:51 UTC

I too think a Memorial of some kind is a fitting thing to do for those who have past and contributed to the game.

I remember a guy called Lenny Juice who I think would be worthy of being included in the 'List of the Fallen'

Reference here .... http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=705684

Perhaps a decision of who to be included could be made by CSM or a minimum number of ballot votes, etc.

I always remember the haunting scene where a dwarf ( Rousch ) salutes a memorial in a scenic spot in the game WoW ;

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=16090/rousch

'Rousch was Tony's main, and when Tony died he was somewhere in the mid 40's. Since that was Tony's first ever character, he was hardly one of the first to try a dwarf.
I was touched to see that some of Tony's friends at Blizzard went to the trouble of arranging the memorial in the game to him. It was added in a patch a few months after his death. He was a kind, cheerful guy, who was always ready to help out someone in need. We all miss him. '

Something along these lines might be appropriate.
Rixx Javix
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#85 - 2012-09-16 13:04:46 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
I'm wondering if as much as a nice thought as this is, why has this not happened for others that passed away? There have been many many people pass away but non got this kind of recognition.

I believe that is unfair.





That is the entire point. Sean is certainly the inspiration, but the proposed memorial would be for ALL fallen Capsuleers.

Reading is fundamental.

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TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2012-09-16 15:08:44 UTC
Rixx Javix wrote:
TriadSte wrote:
I'm wondering if as much as a nice thought as this is, why has this not happened for others that passed away? There have been many many people pass away but non got this kind of recognition.

I believe that is unfair.





That is the entire point. Sean is certainly the inspiration, but the proposed memorial would be for ALL fallen Capsuleers.

Reading is fundamental.


Oh I do apologise, was the original post direct towards every fallen capsuleer? because I read it as being dedicated to Vile Rat perhaps I misread hmmm...
Rixx Javix
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#87 - 2012-09-16 15:21:35 UTC
No worries. I'm just trying to keep the thread focused. So many are focusing on this being about ONE person. And while VR is certainly the inspiration for it, that doesn't mean it is solely about him. But this event has certainly inspired the idea and it includes VR, as well as all those that fall. Which will, some day, include us all.

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Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#88 - 2012-09-16 17:23:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
Paul Oliver wrote:
I think a system that is pitch black except for a white light in the distance


This is literally 80% of Nullsec, just saying.

Rixx Javix wrote:
That is the entire point. Sean is certainly the inspiration, but the proposed memorial would be for ALL fallen Capsuleers.


This needs to be reiterated, again.

Yes people, the idea for a memorial for fallen players is being inspired by the loss of Vile Rat, much like it was talked about when DarkElf passed on years ago; surely many of us know someone from the game that has passed on, and while there are specific examples- a memorial for all players would make a nice touch on the game.

Afterall, this is a game driven by its players right?
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#89 - 2012-09-16 17:26:36 UTC
highonpop wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I'm getting sick of seeing these threads so from now on I will start trolling them Straight



Or you could not be a **** and just stop reading them


Or people could stop being ****'s and just not post them P

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-09-16 17:29:26 UTC
Yeah I think it's time to step back and just wait and see what if anything CCP does make, for all we know they could be working on something right now.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Ailema
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-09-16 19:09:53 UTC
You have my vote/support. This would be nice to see.
Lukas Rox
Aideron Technologies
#92 - 2012-09-17 06:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lukas Rox
+1

I support Rixx's idea for a memorial place somewhere in New Eden. Not necessarily a ring of fire, but I've seen other great ideas, like a binary system with a star and a black hole with some monument commemorating the fallen.

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#93 - 2012-09-17 07:00:55 UTC
Rixx Javix wrote:
Originally posted on Eveoganda:


The Eve community has responded amazingly well to this week's horrible tragedy. I have honestly never been prouder of my own association with Eve Online, CCP and my fellow pilots. What happened in Libya is nothing short of horrible and tragic and pointless violence. But, whatever the real world implications may be, we all have a virtual universe to live in.

So, what now?

There have already been calls to memorialize VR in-game and I wholeheartedly support those calls. The ideas have varied from a perma-cyno in Jita to a Titan wreck in a meaningful zero space system. Again, these are all good ideas. And I would support them. But, I wonder.

With a global player-base and around half-a-million players, the tragedy of this week seems almost inevitable. Something like this had to happen eventually. And as Eve continues to get longer in the tooth, such a tragedy is invariably going to happen again. And again. And again. This is in no way intended to take away from what happened this week, but it will happen again. For those of you young enough not to notice, we are all going to die someday.

What I'm driving at here is nothing short of a permanent massive memorial to the fallen in-game. Something that fits within the context of Eve, the universe, lore, and conventional mechanics. If Capsuleers are the Gods of New Eden, then I think they deserve a God-like Memorial of significance. We humans, and I suspect Capsuleers as well, have historically erected large scale memorial systems to honor those that have passed away before us. I suspect that the future will not be all that different. Especially when it is an immortal Capsuleer that has passed into the great mystery.

To my mind, nothing symbolizes the "great mystery" in New Eden more than the Eve Gate. It is where our ancestors came from and beyond which is nothing more than the great unknown.

What I am suggesting is the creation of the opposite. A Great Ring of Fire on the opposite end of the universe from the Eve Gate. A dark hole that symbolizes the place where we go after death. The great beyond.

A place where the mechanic exists to immortalize those Capsuleers of distinction that have left us forever. Not those that un-sub never to return, but those that have tied their lives in a significant way to our universe and that we know have left real life as well. A hall of heroes if you will, a Hall of Fame, a grand memorial to the fallen.

I suggest inclusion in such a memorial would require action from the elected body of the CSM with final approval given by CCP. The details seem easy enough to imagine.

Sean's passing has, I suspect, left us all feeling a little mortal this week. I know it has made me feel the years pilling on. Perhaps this is one way to give something special back to Sean and the others that will eventually take his side, on the other side.

It is only another suggestion. As I said before, I'd support any memorial that happens in his honor. As always, I tend to think things through to their logical conclusion and how it impacts the game in the bigger picture.

Maybe now is not the time. But, then again, maybe now is the perfect time.

Your thoughts?




I do not know you, Rixx Javix, but your proposal is well thought-out and very workable. Of all the suggestions I have read about a memorial thus far, this is by far the best. A Great Ring of Fire would be fitting.

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William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#94 - 2012-09-17 07:22:37 UTC
I like this idea. One of our greatest fears is to be forgotten and we spend a fair amount of time with other people in this game, I find it appropriate that we will not be forgotten by those same people.

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Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#95 - 2012-09-17 07:25:07 UTC
Peoples who want to remember him will remember him anyway - for good or for bad. One has to respect someone till he lives, after that it does not have any means for the one that is gone. Respect the life of anyone.

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Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#96 - 2012-09-17 09:36:56 UTC
This is a good idea. This would be nice for our fallen brethren though CCP would need a way of verifying deceased members. Maybe something similar to facebook where you can designate 2 trusted people to confirm your death to CCP .

A general monument would probably be better and easier for them, maybe with a little blurb about vile rat since it was his tragedy that brought this around.
Ajurna Jakar
Jian Products Engineering Group
#97 - 2012-09-17 14:47:12 UTC
this is a cool idea.

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Orakkus
ImperiaI Federation
Goonswarm Federation
#98 - 2012-09-17 16:37:43 UTC
I support this idea.

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Laktos
Perkone
Caldari State
#99 - 2012-09-17 19:10:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Laktos
It's certainly a nice sentiment.

However, I would be interested to hear your reasoning Rixx as to how it would fit with in the current lore of EVE. Why would immortal capsuleers with a permanent supply of clones need a memorial to the dead? From what I can gather from your OP you did not address this question specifically. Though I am very tired here so sorry if I missed it.

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betoli
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2012-09-17 19:52:24 UTC
Lukas Rox wrote:
+1

I support Rixx's idea for a memorial place somewhere in New Eden. Not necessarily a ring of fire, but I've seen other great ideas, like a binary system with a star and a black hole with some monument commemorating the fallen.


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