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The pirate ammo and the 0.0 lp stores fix
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Ranvaldy
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-09-28 17:28:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranvaldy
So why can I buy worse ammo in 0.0 lp stores than in highsec ?(I have never done so obviously) Why is the sansha/arch angel etc ammo worse than their highsec types? Its ridiculous that what you can buy in a much dangerous space is actually worse than in highsec. Either give these ammo types the same values like their highsec types(so arch angel=republic fleet) or make their true ammo buyable so you could buy dominations/true sansha ammo. Obviously I endorse the second option which is much more logical to me but I would be happy if at least the first option would happen.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-09-28 17:52:20 UTC
Ranvaldy wrote:
So why do I buy worse ammo in 0.0 lp stores than in highsec ? Why is the sansha/arch angel etc ammo worse than their highsec types? Its ridiculous that what you can buy in a much dangerous space is actually worse than in highsec.

Lol
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#3 - 2011-09-28 18:30:12 UTC
Beacause CCP thinks that pirates should have beter weapons, like in RL. Roll

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Citizen of Solitude
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-09-28 18:36:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Wylee Coyote
Use domination, true sansha, dark blood, dread guristas and guardian ammo instead? Save the LPs for other things?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#5 - 2011-09-28 18:41:18 UTC
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Buy domination, true sansha, dark blood, dread guristas and guardian ammo instead?


Umm. From LP stores?
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-09-28 20:28:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Wylee Coyote
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Buy domination, true sansha, dark blood, dread guristas and guardian ammo instead?


Umm. From LP stores?


/facedesk

My apologies, meant use not buy, as in ignore the lp store completely for pirate faction ammo.

Edit: Changed my Op to actually have written what I meant instead of a half-assed sentence, noticed i even already edited my op to properly spell guardian while completely missing the buy... should just stop posting for the day this far behind...
Ranvaldy
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2011-09-28 23:14:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranvaldy
Okay sorry fixed my first post... I meant to say why can I only buy those inferior ammos... obviously I have never ever wasted LP on inferior ammo.
Izziee
University of Izziee
#8 - 2011-09-29 00:00:03 UTC
Ranvaldy wrote:
So why can I buy worse ammo in 0.0 lp stores than in highsec ?(I have never done so obviously) Why is the sansha/arch angel etc ammo worse than their highsec types? Its ridiculous that what you can buy in a much dangerous space is actually worse than in highsec. Either give these ammo types the same values like their highsec types(so arch angel=republic fleet) or make their true ammo buyable so you could buy dominations/true sansha ammo. Obviously I endorse the second option which is much more logical to me but I would be happy if at least the first option would happen.



Where do you think you can buy better stuff from? NYC/London or some back alley in a remote village in Thailand?

Just sayin'..
Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#9 - 2011-09-29 02:01:09 UTC
Izziee wrote:
Ranvaldy wrote:
So why can I buy worse ammo in 0.0 lp stores than in highsec ?(I have never done so obviously) Why is the sansha/arch angel etc ammo worse than their highsec types? Its ridiculous that what you can buy in a much dangerous space is actually worse than in highsec. Either give these ammo types the same values like their highsec types(so arch angel=republic fleet) or make their true ammo buyable so you could buy dominations/true sansha ammo. Obviously I endorse the second option which is much more logical to me but I would be happy if at least the first option would happen.



Where do you think you can buy better stuff from? NYC/London or some back alley in a remote village in Thailand?

Just sayin'..


Well, those obviously inferior pirates sure do make swell ships/modules...........
Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-09-29 06:08:40 UTC
Ranvaldy wrote:
So why can I buy worse ammo in 0.0 lp stores than in highsec ?(I have never done so obviously) Why is the sansha/arch angel etc ammo worse than their highsec types? Its ridiculous that what you can buy in a much dangerous space is actually worse than in highsec. Either give these ammo types the same values like their highsec types(so arch angel=republic fleet) or make their true ammo buyable so you could buy dominations/true sansha ammo. Obviously I endorse the second option which is much more logical to me but I would be happy if at least the first option would happen.


I support your first option, but not the second. In pvp, you use ONLY the best ammo, and I don't like the idea of having one power block establishing a monopoly on some ammo types by holding a few regions. If Domination shells became the new standard, and one big alliance sat down in Curse and kicked out every other entity, there would be much price gouging on the markets.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-09-29 08:10:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
Ranvaldy wrote:
Its ridiculous that what you can buy in a much dangerous space is actually worse than in highsec


Utopia. High sec is everything you want but safe, yes there are some mechanics different from null but you will never get Konkorden in null, permanentely harassed by grievers, perma wardec, neutral rep/intell, ganked in what you call "safe space" and so on.

In a few words: stop crying, go to high sec and stfu, your issue with pirate ammo has nothing to do with high/null utopias and silly thoughts.

Edit: Every one and their mothers fly drakes and canes if I follow someone's logic, their faction ammo price should be at least 100% more than right now but it isn't, prices are -/+ stable and acceptable.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2011-10-21 01:41:18 UTC
Been missioning in Curse a little while now and just discovered the issue that OP is referring to.

Archangels ammo is better than 'vanilla' T1 but not as good as republic fleet. Dominations ammo, on the other hand, seems to be about as good as it gets.

Subs' cunning stunning plan: Use my Archangels LPs for not-ammo stuff (do I really need halo implants?), and get my LPS ammo upgrades from those kind Dominations folk who live a bit deeper into Curse.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
TrollFace TrololMcFluf
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-10-21 02:22:33 UTC
Try buying any XL version of republic fleet/amarr navy/cal navy ammo.....oh wait you cant anymore looks like those LPs just became useful now quit your damn winging
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#14 - 2011-10-21 04:08:32 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:

Subs' cunning stunning plan: Use my Archangels LPs for not-ammo stuff (do I really need halo implants?), and get my LPS ammo upgrades from those kind Dominations folk who live a bit deeper into Curse.


You can't actually get the 'quality' pirate ammo from any pirate LP stores.

There's no danger of this ammo becoming some expensive de-facto standard in PvP if it is put in there - it exists currently, but is hideously expensive, and people rarely spring for it. Putting it in LP stores to make it more accessible certainly won't end the world.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-10-21 06:19:54 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Been missioning in Curse a little while now and just discovered the issue that OP is referring to.

Archangels ammo is better than 'vanilla' T1 but not as good as republic fleet. Dominations ammo, on the other hand, seems to be about as good as it gets.

Subs' cunning stunning plan: Use my Archangels LPs for not-ammo stuff (do I really need halo implants?), and get my LPS ammo upgrades from those kind Dominations folk who live a bit deeper into Curse.




If you can't win your bucks selling DD's MAch's Cyna's Dram's Bp's you're doing it wrong.

At this point who cares how much RF ammo cost is? Lol
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2011-10-22 03:02:58 UTC
/me reads previous two posts, and finally checks Dominations LPS ... and is bitterly disappointed, if educated. Thanks.

Emo-rage considered, but doesn't seem worth it.

Looks like haloes and angel ship BPs then.

So, where does dominations stuff come from? Exploration plex drops? 'Officer' rats?

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-10-22 08:11:24 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
So, where does dominations stuff come from? Exploration plex drops? 'Officer' rats?


faction rats rarely drop it, occasionally cans in a plex will have some