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Vanguard Investments. Too lazy to invest? Need ISK for an ipo? Looking for safer bonds? Look here!

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Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-09-14 04:58:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Chiyeung Bonaparte
Vanguard Investments(VGI)

Channel: Nocturne.
Mailing list: Vanguard Investments.

Hi my name is Chiyeung.

I was a previous succesful CEO of Nocturne Mercenaries and Wild and Free Narcotics, both corporations which have gain stellar reviews.

I have decided to open VG Investments as a personal project to enrich myself and others.

Due to the fact that this is a one man affair and service, my services will be limited at the
moment.

Our purpose: To help those in need of ISK for their IPO or Bond and acheive their goals. To help busy eve players who wish to invest their isk instead of it sitting in their pockets through passive or aggressive investing. The ultimate purpose is to help those Eve players with a real service that will benefit the community at a low price.

Services we offer:

DISCLAIMER: PLEASE EVE MESSAGE ME BEFORE YOU SEND ISK FOR A CONFERENCE ON VENTRILLO OR EVE

Vanguard Corporation Pension / Investment fund'

If your corporation wishes to start a fund/ pension plan with us, please contact me in game. We can discuss and negotiate where and how you want your funds to work. This is good for any small CEO to increase wealth revenue into their corporation as well as allow their members to gain some passive income.

The way this fund works is similar to a Money Market Fund described below except it is only a 10 million start up fee per corp portfolio and only 5 million start up fee for each client who is from your corporation.


Vanguard Money Market Mutual Fund VMMMF :

Intial Investments Minimum/ Maximum (1 Billion - 5 Billion isk)

(This service is limited at the moment as I want to focus on a few clients at first)

I charge a flat fee of 5 million for my services which will be subtracted from your fund every month for management fees.

This is a fund perfect for players who are to busy and lazy to invest and instead rather do something else such as PvPing or some other form of activity. This is also a useful fund for anyone who decides to leave EVE for a few months.
You can also use your profit to invest in VV's emergency relief fund listed here here

I will have VV issue proof.

How does this fund work?

Every client receives their own portfolio (excel worksheet) with their ISK and where I invest your isk (Bonds, IPOS, banks, player loans, Plex etc). A a rate of return or profit. We will discuss in detail your investment mentality and if you wish to take high risk, low risk or medium risk. Some players are queasy about the ups and downs of the market ( some players may scam you with their loans), so we evaluate what types of risk you wish to take.

All investments will be shown in the portfolio along with their forum post or character or contract.

There is a guaranteed 0.05 interest for these funds, for if the fund tanks, I will either use some of my own isk, back up emergency funs, or fee to raise it up to 0.05

How do I earn money?

You will receive your interest shown in your balance every month on a specific date. You have a choice to either withdraw them or use it to reinvest into your fund.

Vanguard Yield Low Risk Bonds VYLRL: Only 1 bond per player is allowed.

We are currently offering 1 bonds (very limited):

1 month Vanguard 1 billion bond, 3 percent interest rate return at the end of the specified month, every month. Any withdrawals before maturity will lose the previous months interest.


Vanguard Start Up Loans:

This is for any player or corporation who needs isk to achieve their goals and dreams. Instead of the hassle of posting on MD or not being able to secure enough investors, VG is willing to loan you or your coporation isk. Message me today for a conferance and we will iron out the details.

The loans will generally be low interest, but some form of collateral will be required. Usually 85-100 percent of the loan.

All plex collateral will be evaluated at the medium price range level.


Incase any bonds fail, I will use emergency fund through plex or through my own wallet in order to compesate for the loses. I will be looking for alternative backup funding and ask VV to hold some of my isk as proof of backup funding.
Ji Sama
Akira Industries
#2 - 2012-09-14 05:26:50 UTC
Neat :)

Its VV and not VH though :)
Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-09-14 05:31:51 UTC
Haha thanks, I'll correct it. Hopefully she sees this. I'll send her a eve mail
Vadane Deninard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-09-14 08:48:17 UTC
Nice - a good start. I wish you best of luck with this!

Cheers
Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-09-14 18:26:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Chiyeung Bonaparte
I will be adding some more options and change some funding options

1. I believe 1 month bonds will be easier for me and the investor
2. Introducing Corporation pension/ funds
3. I realized a 10 million per month fee may cut to heavily into funds and reduce income so I will reduce the fee
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-09-15 19:25:59 UTC
Just curious why you offer 1b-5b bonds/IPOs backed by your own money, then only charge sub-10m/month.

Why not charge a percentage management overhead?
Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-09-15 19:31:38 UTC
Barakach wrote:
Just curious why you offer 1b-5b bonds/IPOs backed by your own money, then only charge sub-10m/month.

Why not charge a percentage management overhead?


Because for bonds, it is a set rate and a set amount of profit.

For the fund it can fluctuate, setting a percentage can easily cut into profits for clients, I feel that a flat fee is more fair and reasonable.
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-09-16 00:31:17 UTC
Not trying to be a negative nancy, just trying to understand your setup.

So, you are only charging 10m/bond with bond sizes being 1b-5b?
Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-09-16 05:03:41 UTC
Barakach wrote:
Not trying to be a negative nancy, just trying to understand your setup.

So, you are only charging 10m/bond with bond sizes being 1b-5b?


No no, the mutual fund fee is 10m per month

the bond sizes are based on a 3 percent return, the only thing I earn from that is 3 percent.
Zoltan Lazar
#10 - 2012-09-16 05:37:34 UTC
Obvious ponzi idiot is obvious. Move along...
Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-09-16 05:41:48 UTC
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Obvious ponzi idiot is obvious. Move along...


Thanks for the insightful comment. I will be here for a while.
flakeys
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-09-16 07:30:09 UTC
Chiyeung Bonaparte wrote:
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Obvious ponzi idiot is obvious. Move along...


Thanks for the insightful comment. I will be here for a while.



Seeing how you just ''blindly threw'' your isk to the -A- guy in the other thread it looks like YOU are too lazy to invest.If the show in that thread is a token of how you handle investmetns i wouldn't even let you manage my toilet paper.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-09-16 08:12:44 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Chiyeung Bonaparte wrote:
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Obvious ponzi idiot is obvious. Move along...


Thanks for the insightful comment. I will be here for a while.



Seeing how you just ''blindly threw'' your isk to the -A- guy in the other thread it looks like YOU are too lazy to invest.If the show in that thread is a token of how you handle investmetns i wouldn't even let you manage my toilet paper.


I haven't thrown my isk at him. We have discussed and I have told him that unless he gets an audit from VV and investments from other better known MDers , I wouldnt invest. But even with an audit there is risk.

Most of the other bonds here that get filled aren't that much different from his, also if he was smart, scamming 500 million is nothing.

500 million is only a tiny fraction of my own personal portfolio and income, I can afford to take risk with my isk because I have a certain amount of investments that are profitable and I can take risk with a smaller portion I have laying around.

Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-09-16 08:16:22 UTC
Chiyeung Bonaparte wrote:

I haven't thrown my isk at him. We have discussed and I have told him that unless he gets an audit from VV and investments from other better known MDers , I wouldnt invest. But even with an audit there is risk.


:cripes:

use your own brain

.

Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-09-16 08:17:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Chiyeung Bonaparte
Vera Algaert wrote:
Chiyeung Bonaparte wrote:

I haven't thrown my isk at him. We have discussed and I have told him that unless he gets an audit from VV and investments from other better known MDers , I wouldnt invest. But even with an audit there is risk.


:cripes:

use your own brain


Haha, the reason is because he won't start the bond until it is full and he has 0 investors, I don't want to be the first to invest until some form of audit is done or he releases more information. Especially with the fact he messaged me directly asking if I would invest if he listed other investors, its so easy to make some alts and pretend to invest.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-09-16 17:06:46 UTC
Chiyeung Bonaparte wrote:
I don't want to be the first to invest until some form of audit is done or he releases more information.

bad

Chiyeung Bonaparte wrote:
I don't want to invest until some form of audit is done or he releases more information.

good

Your posts sound like: "I don't care if I lose money in this investment - but I am really afraid that once it turns out to be a scam people might laugh at me for being the only one caught with his pants down"

no one got ever blamed for investing in Bad Bobby - but that doesn't make him a good investment.

be confident, use your own brain and get your priorities straight Blink

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Knight FadeAway
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-09-16 17:23:35 UTC
I've invested 5b in VMMMF, good communication with Chiyeung so far, feels good man
Elmo Zumwalt
Elmo's Roughnecks
#18 - 2012-09-16 17:31:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmo Zumwalt
Let's say you get scammed. What happens then? Whose account takes the hit?

Will everyone equally have their accounts deducted, or will one poor soul get the entire amount deducted from his account?
Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-09-16 18:02:59 UTC
Elmo Zumwalt wrote:
Let's say you get scammed. What happens then? Whose account takes the hit?

Will everyone equally have their accounts deducted, or will one poor soul get the entire amount deducted from his account?


It depends, if a certain investment is in a client portfolio and it default, yes it will be entirely deducted. If it is spread out out among st different ones, it will be spread across the different portfolios. The clients and me usually talk and converse on a weekly basis on what bonds, they want to invest in.
Chiyeung Bonaparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-09-16 19:14:47 UTC
Knight FadeAway wrote:
I've invested 5b in VMMMF, good communication with Chiyeung so far, feels good man


I have deposited your 5 billion into the fund, I have sent you a detailed portfolio of all the investments that your isk has been deposited in
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