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When will being a Bounty Hunter actually be a worthy profession?
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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-09-14 09:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
Paul Oliver wrote:
We'll start bidding for James 315's corpse at 500 million isk. Twisted



i'd bid 5 isk





i think bounty hunting will most likely stay broken
because of alts (not Falcon)
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#22 - 2012-09-14 10:29:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
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When will being a Bounty Hunter actually be a worthy profession?


When you can go after your target in station, and silently assassinate him, or her. With his/her thongs. In his/her CQ. When he don't know that someone is hunting him for money. You meet your friend, and then you give him ISK for good assassination. A private contract with bounty hunter.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#23 - 2012-09-14 13:01:31 UTC
You're all barking up the wrong tree.

Yes, the reward for the hunter is important. But what you need is a real punishment for the target. The desire NOT to inconvenience yourself by claiming your own bounty with an alt must be stronger than the reward. Otherwise people will find a way to game the system and claim their own bounties.

There has to be a reason for the target not to want to be caught. Loss of a ship isn't usually sufficient. The penalty needs to be greater than the reward to the hunter. At minimum, the reward to the hunter should be less than the cost to victim. And I think perhaps the person that placed the bounty ought to be rewarded in some way too.



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Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-09-14 13:29:47 UTC
If the BH can purchase the bounty for a % of the bounty pay out and then the only one who can collect is the BH who purchased it. that solves the alt problem.

There have been numerous excellent ideas floated by the community and I agree, this profession being optimized is WAY overdue. I think this could be a strategic win for EVE. If working, it would be so easy to market it as everyone has heard of the bad things that EVE criminals do and that excites some and turns others off. If there was a viable mechanic to have the 'good guys' hunt the 'bad guys' I think it would attract a lot of people to the game.

Riedle
Doddy
Excidium.
#25 - 2012-09-14 13:37:03 UTC
Sorting out bounty is kinda the holy grail of eve. Something that many search for and none wil ever find.

Instituting a proper bounty system would take alot of work and need a lot of balancing.
Doddy
Excidium.
#26 - 2012-09-14 13:38:31 UTC
I personally think an agent system would work best, with agents giving out kill missions on players that have bounty.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-09-14 14:00:25 UTC
Relevant thread in Assembly Hall: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=32462

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Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-09-14 15:16:46 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
How about this:

Critical (and only) problem with current bounty system:
-any criminal can be killed by their own alt

so even if he dont know if he has bounty on him (pyr8t proposal), he can pod himself by monthly basis (just in case) and recieve isk for himself

Proposal:
-Bounty will be linked to his ship price (not for the pod).

For example. Player has bounty 2B on him. If someone kill him in his hurricane, the Bounty hunter will get 45m (according actual jita prices). Criminal will now have only 1,955B bounty on him as 45m will be deducted from his bounty. If BH kill him in his Machariel, BH will recieve bounty 1,13B (jita price) and from now on criminal will have only 870m on his head.

Criminal could not shoot himself by his alt as he will lose same ammount of isk as ship cost of his main. This will prevent main problem with current BH mechanics.

In other words, there is no another solution for this as far as there are criminal alts included.



awsome idea mate best i heard yet
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#29 - 2012-09-14 15:45:32 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
How about this:

Critical (and only) problem with current bounty system:
-any criminal can be killed by their own alt

so even if he dont know if he has bounty on him (pyr8t proposal), he can pod himself by monthly basis (just in case) and recieve isk for himself

Proposal:
-Bounty will be linked to his ship price (not for the pod).

For example. Player has bounty 2B on him. If someone kill him in his hurricane, the Bounty hunter will get 45m (according actual jita prices). Criminal will now have only 1,955B bounty on him as 45m will be deducted from his bounty. If BH kill him in his Machariel, BH will recieve bounty 1,13B (jita price) and from now on criminal will have only 870m on his head.

Criminal could not shoot himself by his alt as he will lose same ammount of isk as ship cost of his main. This will prevent main problem with current BH mechanics.

In other words, there is no another solution for this as far as there are criminal alts included.



awsome idea mate best i heard yet


The market price would be the issue. Someone floods the market with terribad t1 items to increase average price, kills his own ships, takes home a good chunk of his bounty.

The last thing the economy needs is more artificial inflation.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-09-14 15:50:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
perhaps concord LP for kills on minus sec guys (like fw lp for pvp kills, ship and mods cost etc) perhaps with a bonus to any applied isk bounty in the LP.

that and the bad man locater service of course :)

However, i really think the security status system needs an overhaul first.

EDIT: ooohhh what about an overseers tag in a pirates loot, again based off the ship and fitting costs, not the pirates sec, but perhaps more for a big bounty,

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darmwand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-09-14 16:03:08 UTC
The thing is, if you can just freely place bounties on people and others can then shoot those very people, "griefers" will put bounties on random "carebears" who will then lose their shinies and come whining on the forums. Thus any bounty system would pretty much have to involve transferable kill rights or something like that.

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