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PLEX Drive For Vile Rats Family?

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#181 - 2012-09-17 14:31:41 UTC
I suppose we should have PLEX drive for all the families of the deceased EVE Online players?

I have tremendous respect for Vile Rat and his accomplishments, but this PLEX drive is just way too much.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#182 - 2012-09-17 14:53:13 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
I suppose we should have PLEX drive for all the families of the deceased EVE Online players?

I have tremendous respect for Vile Rat and his accomplishments, but this PLEX drive is just way too much.

No one is forcing any one to donate. VR did a lot for the community. It makes sense the community wants to give something back for what he did for us.
Torve Starduster
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#183 - 2012-09-17 15:03:55 UTC
Well, I'm usually not for these kind of things, the thing he's not the only dead EvE player and all...
Still, it's clear that he made an impact, however small, on a lot of people. Let them remember/pay their respects the way they want.
For one, compare the use of 500 mil isk to potentially helping fund the funeral of someone...

I'm usually not for these kind of things, but I'd do it this time.
Randomize All
Doomheim
#184 - 2012-09-17 15:16:17 UTC
Jake Maverick wrote:
Now his Family is without him, who is to say how they will get by without him? Don't we owe his family a debt?


When I die, you going to get everybody to support my family?
How about when all the other customers of GGP died? I know they weren't goons, but come on, they had families too.
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#185 - 2012-09-17 18:42:31 UTC
If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#186 - 2012-09-17 18:45:26 UTC
Scooter McCabe wrote:
If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness.



This man is wise man.

To all douchebags you should read this man post and ask CCP to make it implant so you could plug irl to make you better persons.

brb

Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2012-09-17 18:51:24 UTC
Scooter McCabe wrote:
If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness.


There have been some really nasty replies to people dying in RL from some corners of the Eve player base in the past. I seem to recall that they originated from the same community that is now trying to raise funds for one of their own that died recently.
Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#188 - 2012-09-17 19:24:53 UTC
Hauling Hal wrote:
Scooter McCabe wrote:
If it were you, I'd think your corp mates would post something on EVE. I think the players of EVE would see it and step forward with the same care and concern. People outside of EVE hear of things all the time where someone is in need and caring people do step forward. Now you don't have to get involved, but don't impede other people from being generous with uncalled for negativity. I wouldn't try to dissuade someone from helping your family or raising awareness.


There have been some really nasty replies to people dying in RL from some corners of the Eve player base in the past. I seem to recall that they originated from the same community that is now trying to raise funds for one of their own that died recently.


Well I wasn't around for that, I don't know if you were either. What I do know is that the first step in a fallacious argument is the use of generalizations to characterize an entire community. Like the counter protests to the violence in Libya we are presented daily with the fact that generalizations never fit a people. If an outside observer of EVE came to look around at the day to day gaming, one might be inclined we are a bunch of nerds taking a game way to seriously and have lost sight of what is really important. But then you see the charity events done at Fanfest, the PLEX drives for the tragedy in Japan, and now our response to this. They would be left with the incongruity of these two observations, they'd have to set aside their generalization of EVE and accept the reality that the community is more than just the sum of its parts.

So in short your generalization just doesn't fit, but thanks for posting so this stays up on the front page so people can be aware and help.
Jake Maverick
X11 Assault and Recon
#189 - 2012-09-17 20:55:08 UTC
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#190 - 2012-09-17 23:43:15 UTC
Randomize All wrote:
Jake Maverick wrote:
Now his Family is without him, who is to say how they will get by without him? Don't we owe his family a debt?


When I die, you going to get everybody to support my family?
How about when all the other customers of GGP died? I know they weren't goons, but come on, they had families too.


This is absolutely right. Since when did the burden of having to support the families of those deceased, became the obligation of the CCP?

It sure has nice ring to it. CCP running PLEX Drive to support the families of deceased EVE Player, but why should CCP dedicate dozens of its employees, deprive hundreds of labor-hour that could have been gone to developing new ships or new features, to make ingame memorial sites and support the unfortunate families?

I am not in the best position to dictate what CCP should do, but as one of the stakeholders who purchase hundreds of PLEXs, I can only see this PLEX Drive serving one purpose: marketing EVE Online out there.

I suppose CCP should hold PLEX Drive to support all the families of all the deceased EVE Players?

Should CCP start allocating 32% of its revenue so it can start EVE Players' social security program too?
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2012-09-17 23:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Jake Maverick wrote:


By the way, munificence of the EVE Players almost brings me tears. Look at the streams of support that has been shown by the players. The collective power of the EVE Online players is staggering. This charity drive is probably more effective by several folds, than having to formulate a PLEX Drive from the scratch.

Already $59k or so. This is simply amazing.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#192 - 2012-09-18 00:44:00 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
This is absolutely right. Since when did the burden of having to support the families of those deceased, became the obligation of the CCP?

It sure has nice ring to it. CCP running PLEX Drive to support the families of deceased EVE Player, but why should CCP dedicate dozens of its employees, deprive hundreds of labor-hour that could have been gone to developing new ships or new features, to make ingame memorial sites and support the unfortunate families?

I am not in the best position to dictate what CCP should do, but as one of the stakeholders who purchase hundreds of PLEXs, I can only see this PLEX Drive serving one purpose: marketing EVE Online out there.

I suppose CCP should hold PLEX Drive to support all the families of all the deceased EVE Players?

Should CCP start allocating 32% of its revenue so it can start EVE Players' social security program too?


I think CCP has previously said that the staff who manage PLEX drives do so on their own time (i.e. not on company time) and that the only costs absorbed by the company are credit card processing fees from selling the PLEX consumed in the drives.

I personally don't expect them to run a PLEX drive for this cause seeing as his family is getting substantial donations from the community, and I wouldn't hold it against them if they didn't.

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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#193 - 2012-09-18 00:52:48 UTC
NO!

People die all days. EvE player don't die that often but it still happens.
He did his job and he KNEW it might be dangures!

It's the job of the US-Goverment to take care about his family now, not ours!

And much more important for me: it was a US fanatican who made this damn video why all this happend. Every goverment in the world knew this fanatic christian prist ... but AGAIN the US goverment failed to act in time (arest this fanaticen).

Now the hole western world has to suffer becouse if this DAMN IDIOT who made the incridible STUPID video.

If someone should pay then ONLY the US goverment and this fanatic christ prist Terry Jones.

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

Din Chao
#194 - 2012-09-18 02:09:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Din Chao
Jojo Jackson wrote:
And much more important for me: it was a US fanatican who made this damn video why all this happend. Every goverment in the world knew this fanatic christian prist ... but AGAIN the US goverment failed to act in time (arest this fanaticen).

Now the hole western world has to suffer becouse if this DAMN IDIOT who made the incridible STUPID video.

If someone should pay then ONLY the US goverment and this fanatic christ prist Terry Jones.

**** you
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