Market Discussions

What the hell
Jita
~20 Plex for sale (13Plex below 1b, yep 1b)
buy: 544
sell: 600

1b Plex here we come

I have no problem with the current Plex prices, it's just fun right now to observe it.

ESSENCEtrademan boughtout all plex in essense region.
GENESIStrademan boughtout all plex in genesis region.

Feel free to continue the list while claiming there's no manipulation going on.

Oh I'm sorry, was this meant to be a secret?

I'd bet CCP's central bank will fix this before the week-end and manipulater tears will flood these forums.

On a side note, stop blaming Goons for all you dislike about this game. It's gotten old ages ago. If yer unhappy just stop playing,ya know.... do yerself the favor.

You're mentioning two fairly small regions. If the forge was bought out by jitatrademan(woman) then it would be interesting. For now it's just someone noticing the hike in main regions and balancing out in the rest of empire. IIRC the characters are accessible by quite a few and were most likely therefor quickest to react.

As for blaming goons, I'm not sure how it's a problem. Goons like the attention, people need a scapegoat. Seems fairly symbiotic, no?

Or maybe someone know something before the rest of community knows it.

TASHMURKONtrademan bought one from me, cheers

There has been plans for operation like this.

Someone is making some profits

I'll give CCP the cash for the accounts rather than give the manipulator the ISk. Just because I can easliy afford it.

But I assure you CCP will step in...



People seem to forget CCP is a business and its investors want stability and or growth in the business. This is especially important now that it just obtained additional "private funding" and DUST 514 is just around the corner. CCP doesn't want the drama.



Options:

10,000 plex sitting on the sideline from bannet bot accounts

Banning the manipulators entirely, just because the EULA will let them

Just seeding PLEX at a lower fixed Price permanently (maybe 300M each - ouchies manipulators)



CCP can easily remove Manipulators equation at anytime and there will be nothing they can do about it. You can mess with the mechancis and manipulate the price of an in game product any time thats an in-game mechanic. PLEX is a delicate threshold, item, the second you start impairing subscription numbers, you're crossing a line.

CCP answers to its investors, that is how a businesses work.

This will work itself out, I'm going to break out the popcorn - should be a good show. Manipulator tears incoming.

Unused PLEX sitting in piles in player hangars hurts CCP's bottom line because it complicates their accounting in real life. They know how many unredeemed PLEX are in the game, but not when they are actually going to be used for game-time (which is the whole point of PLEX, don't forget). The idea behind PLEX was that it provided a sanctioned way to do RM trading -- richer players would buy PLEX with cash, convert the PLEX to ISK, and spend, spend, spend. Poorer players could grind ISK and buy PLEX, then redeem the PLEX for game-time. It worked pretty well for awhile, but the system seems to be breaking down.

The cost of a PLEX is now higher than a monthly sub (by about 25%). Even poorer players have to look at the mechanics involved for grinding ISK for PLEX vs just paying for a sub -- 520M ISK may not be much money to the monocled elite, but it's hours and hours of dreadful grinding for many players. Speculators may be to blame for some of the recent spiking, but I think some of it is also simply due to a shrinking supply of PLEX on the market. Only CCP knows for sure since they can tell how much unredeemed PLEX is still in the game.

A possible solution would be to put an expiration date on the use of a PLEX. Three months, six months, a year, something like that: if you don't use it, it expires and is worth nothing. That would prevent speculators from hoarding PLEX for long periods of time, and would allow CCP some finer-grained control over the situation without intervening in the market.

Oh come on stop talking about blaming L4 missions veteran mains with 8 day old speed tanked alts are making 20+ billion a month in FW Winmitar complexes. They went tier 5 again last weekend & we're seeing the PLEX spkie brcause of it.
The PvE designers need to take a class which explains the definition of a Monty Haul campaign.
At least with Incursions you had to have 3 month's plus o trianing to get in a legion or logistic then had to find a fleet and incursions paid what 1/4 what these speedtank alts are making a month?