EVE General Discussion

Freighters should be allowed to be able to add mods for tanking.
Makes no sense that the people who designed such ships to be carrying large amounts of things through space thought they would never need any type of defense ever. 3-4 lows and 3 or 4 mids would be nice.

Goons are doing EVE a favor by removing stupid and restoring the NAV/smarts balance

That's all I hear when you Goons talk, no matter what you say...just sounds like that.

Puts pants on head, steps onto soap box and reads the tea leafs

- This time next year 0.0 space will be 100% blue and all parties will have sing-songs across the regions of law-less space about being space pirates "YAAH!"
- Low sec will be revisited and what is low sec will stretch encroaching on current high sec leaving only 0.9 and higher systems secure and protected by concord
- Unicorns will spring forth from wormholes and block Alpha strikes screaming "ALPHA STRIKE BACK OF COURSE, OF COURSE, NO, I'M A UNICORN, NOT A HORSE!"
- EVE Will gain millions of new subscribers

- takes pants off of head
- steps down
- takes a breath
- laughs with an old friend, 'Mr Max Zim' and he's old saying "don't undock in what you can't afford to lose".

Yes, hauling freight is hi-sec is sooooo stupid. lol dummies.

Mechanics and strategies were in place at every step of the way to avoid being in this situation, they were ignored.

From planning how much value to be carried on each ship, to how you set up your contracts (assuming there was one, or preferably 2), to how your scouting was done (if any), to the logistics of the actual move (corp webbing ship), to defensive steps implemented (webbing again, logistics, fleet bonuses, or even the classic but dishonorable log off after jump), and if you really want to split hairs the choice of implants for the freighter pilots.

There is a big difference between needing the game mechanics to be changed and simply choosing not to use the game mechanics available.

Show me how to fight off a suicide gank.

Your best options are to either avoid the suicide gank, make the attempt financially unappealing, or be set up to give better chances of surviving it long enough for Concord to arrive... all of which fall under the category of PVP (player vs player) activity.

Eg: Split off the high-value, low volume items and move those in the appropriate ship-class: blockade runners (If you can fly a freighter, then you're a day away from being able to fly a properly fight BR)

Eg: send ahead "decoy" ships (T1 industrials with BPCs, etc) through particularly high risk areas like the WELL KNOWN BOTTLENECK BETWEEN AMARR AND JITA

Eg: employ a friend or alt in corp with a webbing ship (This is one of the few unironic uses for a Hyena) to near-instawarp your freighter

Eg: take a longer but less dangerous route when moving especially high-value cargoes

Eg: move especially high value cargoes when EVE is relatively quiet

Eg: Train up Leadership skills to increase EHP - suicide ganking with Alpha is expensive, and gank operations often operate with tight margins. You might just tip the balance. You can also increase your freighter's agility this way

But really, the first suggestion is the important one. All the rest are for if you don't follow it. Seriously: put the high value stuff into a fully expanded and rigged BR.

It does seem kind of strange that a ship capable of hauling that much cargo which aligns and warps as slowly as a freighter does would not have the ability to fit any sort of defensive modules or atleast a method to avoid being tackled. Also the fact that a ship type that didn't even exist when freighters were introduced is being used exclusively to do the ganking implies that an imbalance exists and should be corrected, after all it's only logical that when a weapon is created that gives one side an advantage over another that a counter is also created.