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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#461 - 2012-09-13 19:21:07 UTC
I couldn't even get through most of this crap.

I do incursions, and rather than taking the easy way out and jamming all my shiney stuff into a frighter, i actually FLY stuff to where it needs to go (and use an alt to move mods and ammo in a prorator).

Putting all your eggs in one basket is really dumb. And of course rather than smartening up and learning how to do it right, the OP runs to the forum for ccp to "fix it". Oh the humanity
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#462 - 2012-09-13 19:22:43 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:

Goons are all over high-sec don't let them tell you otherwise. Especially now that CCP gifted the CFC with near immunity from wardecs. Last time I checked (which admittedly is not that recent.) Goons had zero wardecs on them. The most obnoxious and hated alliance has zero war decs, yeah sounds like the war-dec system is working as intended...


Maybe nobody wardecs Goons because ppl simply don't want to wardec them? You can't say...


No, its definitely the cost.


Not that the GOONS need on even want me to defend them. I'm sure they would rather just blast me. But I would think that anyone who war decs the GOONS makes themselves a primary target to hunt down. There are plenty of bored GOONS looking for something to do. being able to attack war targets in high sec freely, would be like christmas to a GOON.

I can tell you it is not the cost, many alliances who hate the GOONS could afford it. Perhaps knowing they would have their arse handed to them repeatedly is the real deterrent to war decing the GOONS. The GOONS certainly are not afraid of a fight.

There is just no alliance currently in game with enough clout to stand up to the GOONS, at least not one that has a reason too. I am not saying there is no alliance that could defeat the GOONS, but only that of the few there are, all are either friends of the GOONS or would stand to lose to much in such a war for it to be worth while.

In fact based on what I know of the GOONSWARM, I would think that most if not all the GOONS would be very happy if such a war was to happen. It would result in an abundance of PVP. I believe one of their moto's is "A GOON with someone to shoot is a happy GOON".

Goon is not an acronym.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#463 - 2012-09-13 20:19:05 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Putting all your eggs in one basket is really dumb. And of course rather than smartening up and learning how to do it right, the OP runs to the forum for ccp to "fix it". Oh the humanity

How long until freighters get their "much needed" ehp buff...

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#464 - 2012-09-13 20:20:30 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:

Goons are all over high-sec don't let them tell you otherwise. Especially now that CCP gifted the CFC with near immunity from wardecs. Last time I checked (which admittedly is not that recent.) Goons had zero wardecs on them. The most obnoxious and hated alliance has zero war decs, yeah sounds like the war-dec system is working as intended...

Maybe nobody wardecs Goons because ppl simply don't want to wardec them? You can't say...

No, its definitely the cost.

Definitely the cost. We used to have Jita undock campers wardeccing all the time.

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Lord Regent
Caldari State
#465 - 2012-09-23 15:27:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Regent
If everyone in highsec flew a little more like people do in nullsec, you guys wouldn't have half the problems you do.

i.e. have any idea what is going on around you, and have some sense of danger.

The vast majority of highsec mouth-breathing pubbies are so oblivious to your surroundings, you wouldn't know you're about to be ganked unless someone literally convo'd you and told you. and then, you'd probably be alt-tabbed and off fapping it, so you'd probably miss it anyways.

Face it, If you snooze you lose. If you see a titan go down in 0.0 (many many times more valuable than the most valuable freighter anyone has popped in highsec) do you see a stream of pubbie tears in E-O? Nope. That plot or group of pilots generally owns up to their mistakes if they made any, or just chalks it up to good work by their enemies.

That is all.

powers-sa: flaming deadtear is like lighting your own farts powers-sa: eventually you are going to singe your ass
Codo Yagari
Cohortes Vigilum
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#466 - 2012-09-28 12:35:25 UTC
OP

+1

Concord needs a good buff!

http://forum.yulaifederation.net/yulai-guard/
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#467 - 2012-09-28 13:06:20 UTC
God forbid freighters and jump freighters ever are put at risk

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Diva Ex Machina
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#468 - 2012-09-28 13:54:47 UTC
Really the whinging on the Eve forums never stops. Roll

For those complaining that you can't proactively engage gankers in high sec without getting concorded, the obvious solution is to get out of high sec. There, problem solved. Awaiting your profuse thanks.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#469 - 2012-09-28 14:00:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
why are Yulai Federation roleplayers so concerned about the safety of freighters loaded with cargo worth 30 times the value of the hull

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Creedling
#470 - 2012-09-28 14:42:00 UTC
Agree with most of the responses here - don't put all your eggs in one basket!

Amused by the amount of people who leapt on the opportunity to prove to GD how elite they are talking about lack of situational awareness in hisec etc - what's a Local full of blues got to do with situational awareness?
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#471 - 2012-09-28 14:51:21 UTC
Its actually funny that no-one on the forums gave the OP a like for this during the past weeks.

I'm actually a bit proud on you guys.
/pinks a tear away. Maybe there's still hope to keep eve, EVE.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#472 - 2012-09-28 14:52:45 UTC
Creedling wrote:
Agree with most of the responses here - don't put all your eggs in one basket!

Amused by the amount of people who leapt on the opportunity to prove to GD how elite they are talking about lack of situational awareness in hisec etc - what's a Local full of blues got to do with situational awareness?


since nullsec is super safe why don't you just move here?

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Tarinara
Doomheim
#473 - 2012-09-28 15:43:09 UTC
And so another falls to the Goons...

Just saw the results of the mayhem on my way through just now. Impressive that y'all got them that far away from the gate. Smile
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#474 - 2012-09-28 16:31:55 UTC
Mohamad Transporte wrote:
just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!

21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!


There's an important difference: Bilions of ISK from incursions, DED, mining and so on are ISK created from nowhere, Bilions from suicide ganking freighters are simply moved from an owner to another one (and part destroyed in the process). So it's a balancing healty factor in the global gameplay and food chain.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#475 - 2012-09-28 17:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
@angry highsec pubbie #23895872438975293458923475234589 if nullsec was fixed we wouldn't be in highsec murdering you

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#476 - 2012-09-28 18:27:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Putting all your eggs in one basket is really dumb. And of course rather than smartening up and learning how to do it right, the OP runs to the forum for ccp to "fix it". Oh the humanity

Hey, it worked for the miners.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#477 - 2012-09-28 18:33:43 UTC
Exactly how many people did it take to kill those Freighers? Divide that 20 bill by that...thats right...not as profitable anymore now is it?

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Liz Laser
Blood Tribe Inc
#478 - 2012-09-28 21:45:13 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY FREIGHTER PILOTS, ONCE ******** CRIMEWATCH COMES AROUND NOBODY WILL GANK YOUR PRECIOUS FREIGHTER FULL OF 50 BILL ISK CARGO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCOOP IT WITHOUT BEING FREELY SHOT AT BY ANYONE.


You put too much faith in people being kind. Why would any of us drop what we are doing to hunt some crimenal for no incentive? Ooooo... That guy has a crime flag, let's stop our current profitable endeavour that we enjoy to go ahoot someone who most likely is better prepared and is hoping we come to our deaths.

Sorry, just because someone can be shot by anyone does not mean everyone will come running to shoot them.


I might be misunderstanding, but it sounds like a guard fleet could then keep "bad guys" from absconding with the loot by killing them.

Thus leading to fleet battles to attack/defend freighter movements.
Liz Laser
Blood Tribe Inc
#479 - 2012-09-28 21:47:08 UTC
Liz Laser wrote:
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY FREIGHTER PILOTS, ONCE ******** CRIMEWATCH COMES AROUND NOBODY WILL GANK YOUR PRECIOUS FREIGHTER FULL OF 50 BILL ISK CARGO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCOOP IT WITHOUT BEING FREELY SHOT AT BY ANYONE.


You put too much faith in people being kind. Why would any of us drop what we are doing to hunt some crimenal for no incentive? Ooooo... That guy has a crime flag, let's stop our current profitable endeavour that we enjoy to go ahoot someone who most likely is better prepared and is hoping we come to our deaths.

Sorry, just because someone can be shot by anyone does not mean everyone will come running to shoot them.


I might be misunderstanding, but it sounds like a guard fleet could then keep "bad guys" from absconding with the loot by killing them.

Thus leading to big fleet battles to attack/defend freighter movements.
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#480 - 2012-09-28 22:34:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Hauling Hal
La Nariz wrote:
@angry highsec pubbie #23895872438975293458923475234589 if nullsec was fixed we wouldn't be in highsec murdering you


ROFLMAO

Sorry, I assumed you were joking.