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Ghazu

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#381 - 2012-09-12 12:08:17 UTC

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:

Buck Futz wrote:

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:

Buck Futz wrote:

So, let me get this straight.
Miners were getting ganked, so they cried.
CCP gave them a one-size-fits all Exhumer that is unprofitable to gank.

So gankers do what they always do, adapt (yet again), organize and....

LOL!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Good one man..."gankers adapt"
Perhaps you've forgotten the Barge fairy tale thread already where you guys have done nothing but whine and cry for hundreds of pages, I am sure it just slipped your mind. Thank you though for the laugh :)

What, did you think that gankers are going to stop ganking, simply because solo ganking miners is now impossible?
Sorry, thats not happening. They simply find the path of least resistance.

Convincing CCP that they screwed up is hard.
Killing freighters is relatively easy. Too bad for the freighter pilots.

No, I don't expect gankers to stop ganking nor would I want them to. It's just your reply in comparison to how a lot of you gankers reacted to the mining changes... you didn't adapt, you just whined...lol.

And here we are again with another whine thread.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Lin-Young Borovskova

Doomheim

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#382 - 2012-09-12 12:08:25 UTC

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:

Buck Futz wrote:

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:

Buck Futz wrote:

No, your mistake is that you are putting everyone in the same barge than brainless pawns. Those whining moaning FPS fan boys are only and will always be the brainless idiots thinking kill mining barges with a T1 destroyer is balanced, perma camping low sec gates is normal, bring lvl4's to low sec, etcetera etcetera etcetera.
Good gankers don't give and never gave that much importance to mining barge kills when you have permanently and literally thousands of billions worth of stuff being haul in T1 untaked ships, afk freighters, frigates with billions of implants/BPO's/Plex.

30min spent to prepare an exhumer gank (alt scouting/scan etc) it's more then I need to hit F1 and insta alpha the frigate with billions of stuff in his cargo. This is why in my opinion killing mining barges was and will always be pure grieffing and idiots/pawns/special/disturbed dudes business since thinking by their own it's not really their strong point, nothing else.

brb

Yokai Mitsuhide

Doomheim

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#383 - 2012-09-12 12:17:18 UTC

Ghazu wrote:

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:

Buck Futz wrote:

Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:

Buck Futz wrote:

And here we are again with another whine thread.

So stop whining?


Ghazu Likes received: 718	#384 - 2012-09-12 12:19:41 UTC 1 uh read the op again? http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984


Yokai Mitsuhide Doomheim Likes received: 7,094	#385 - 2012-09-12 12:20:03 UTC Ghazu wrote: uh read the op again? Nah.


Ghazu Likes received: 718	#386 - 2012-09-12 12:22:04 UTC 1 please? http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984


Yokai Mitsuhide Doomheim Likes received: 7,094	#387 - 2012-09-12 12:24:42 UTC \| Edited by: Yokai Mitsuhide 1 Ghazu wrote: please? Ok, but only because you asked politely :) edit: oh look at that....you're right :D

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Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#388 - 2012-09-12 13:45:05 UTC \| Edited by: Jorma Morkkis Tippia wrote: Since cost is not a balancing factor, a bunch of cheap ships ruining the day of a much more expensive one is working just as intended. Why I can't find killmail you destroying 2B isk Damnation in 1.0 system? By your logic, it should be easy kill with 60M isk Tornado.

Ghazu

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#389 - 2012-09-12 14:47:57 UTC

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Since cost is not a balancing factor, a bunch of cheap ships ruining the day of a much more expensive one is working just as intended.

Why I can't find killmail you destroying 2B isk Damnation in 1.0 system?

By your logic, it should be easy kill with 60M isk Tornado.

Fill the cargo to the brim with 215 plexes and we'll give that dice a roll.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Frostys Virpio

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#390 - 2012-09-12 14:57:20 UTC

Ghazu wrote:

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Since cost is not a balancing factor, a bunch of cheap ships ruining the day of a much more expensive one is working just as intended.

Why I can't find killmail you destroying 2B isk Damnation in 1.0 system?

By your logic, it should be easy kill with 60M isk Tornado.

Fill the cargo to the brim with 215 plexes and we'll give that dice a roll.

How about cargo rigs and expanders for extra plex capacity? It's 1.0 security so it's safe right? Even on auto pilot.


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#391 - 2012-09-12 15:03:10 UTC Ghazu wrote: Fill the cargo to the brim with 215 plexes and we'll give that dice a roll. Do you even know how expensive A-Type EANMs are?

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

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#392 - 2012-09-12 15:06:38 UTC

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Since cost is not a balancing factor, a bunch of cheap ships ruining the day of a much more expensive one is working just as intended.

Why I can't find killmail you destroying 2B isk Damnation in 1.0 system?

Because I'm not a ganker.

Quote:

By your logic, it should be easy kill with 60M isk Tornado.

Guess what? It is. Fortunately, it seems Damnation pilots aren't quite as stupid as haulers.


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#393 - 2012-09-12 15:23:37 UTC Tippia wrote: Because I'm not a ganker. Are you saying that Drop Shock isn't your alt? Tippia wrote: Guess what? It is. Unless you are using exploits you have still 600k+ EHP to go after your Tornado explodes...


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#394 - 2012-09-12 15:30:47 UTC Jorma Morkkis wrote: Are you saying that Drop Shock isn't your alt? Who? Quote: Unless you are using exploits you have still 600k+ EHP to go after your Tornado explodes... …why would you go after a 600k+ EHP one? You go for the ones with <40k EHP and still carrying that kind of cargo.


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#395 - 2012-09-12 15:34:44 UTC Tippia wrote: …why would you go after a 600k+ EHP one? You said something about the EHP not being a balancing factor.


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#396 - 2012-09-12 15:36:57 UTC Jorma Morkkis wrote: You said something about the EHP not being a balancing factor. No.

Bugsy VanHalen

Society of lost Souls

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#397 - 2012-09-12 15:42:25 UTC

Mohamad Transporte wrote:

just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!

21.5 Billion isk people!!!!

that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!

if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game

u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...

OK, Someone does not get the concept of EVE.

I have not even read the other responses yet, but I am sure most will say much the same thing.

That is an average drop of over 5 bil per freighter. Since drops rarely exceed 50% of total cargo value that means these 4 freighter probably averaged over 10 bil cargo each.

That is a very juicy gank target.

If GOONS didn't gank them someone else would have. hell I would have tried to gank that, and I am not a ganker.

Rule of thumb is don't haul more than 1 bil worth of cargo at a time in a freighter. Although you can push that to about 2 bil without to much risk, 10 bil is just asking to get ganked.

As far as I am concerned this is working as intended.


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#398 - 2012-09-12 15:42:34 UTC \| Edited by: Jorma Morkkis Tippia wrote: Jorma Morkkis wrote: You said something about the EHP not being a balancing factor. No. Last time I checked I would get higher EHP with more expensive stuff like A-Type EANMs and T2 1600mm plates than meta 0 EANMs and meta 0 50mm plates.


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#399 - 2012-09-12 15:51:03 UTC Jorma Morkkis wrote: Last time I checked I would get higher EHP with more expensive stuff like A-Type EANMs and T2 1600mm plates than meta 0 EANMs and meta 0 50mm plates. …and the cost is not a balancing factor.


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#400 - 2012-09-12 15:54:32 UTC Tippia wrote: …and the cost is not a balancing factor. Then why not go and suicide gank a 600k EHP Damnation?

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