EVE General Discussion

So to make this short, nobody likes to play support and use remote armor ships to prevent a Freighter from getting destroyed?

look man, it's unreasonable to expect people to actually defend their 21 billion in assets when they're autopiloting them through highsec. defending it just wouldn't be worth it m8

Reading about all that ganking happening in that system reminds me of my 2 pod trip in there back when I didn't know about shuttle. Newbie make stupid moves sometime...

I'm still firmly of the opinion that anything without guns to defend itself, flying through any space that has potential hostiles should have been designed to survive most attacks until support arrives.

It's obvious logic. You don't make a ship out of tinfoil and throw it on the ocean, then send it through pirate territory or even into potentially hazardous waters. You make it tough as hell, give it at least some means to fight off attackers for a short time and if it's carrying valuable cargo, you send an escort with it.

Even with an Escort fleet, the chances are it is going to have to survive for a time and will sustain damage, so the previous logic holds.

No reason why EVE should be any different except to favor gank bears and give them easy kills.

Nations and Corporations don't design stuff and field it with a high potential risk of profit loss. Most of the 'Industrial ships' in games however, are designed to be so easily destroyed and incapable that it makes you wonder. Even single player spaceship games suffer from this oversight.

On the other hand, provided appropriate armament, a skilled pilot, and a little focus and determination a Fighter Jet could do significant damage to a transport ship before it ran out of ammunition. It might even sink it, but for whatever reason, those things are practically capsizing just from the loads they carry. That's what happens when people grow complacent in the absence of danger I guess.

Of course, it is a heck of a lot of cargo containers to search, and most of it will probably end up on the bottom of the ocean if you even attempt to attack it with any significant armament anyway, so I'm not sure anyone would bother.

Moot point, shuttles don't need lots of hitpoints because warp almost instantly.

Moot point because you can't balance freighters or anything else for that matter to withstand attacks from far greater group. Or did you perhaps ignore the fact that the killmail had 15 battlecruisers in it, that's how many it took to kill it. At what point would you consider it balanced? When it requires 150? Simply put, it's working as intended as a solo pilot should not be able to survive after making a mistake and getting cauhgt in a camp like that.

And for those asking for a nerf to the profits. That's almost like asking for the gankees to start thinking and fitting/filling their boats smarter so that they are not aloot pinata like was with these freighters that got ganked.

I actually wouldn't bother increasing a freighters ehp; it has enough already. I'd just like to see it have a fitting or two becuase it is boring.

The industrials and such are pretty wimpy though for the most part. High align times, slow, slower with tank or otherwise just easy targets that are easy to catch and kill. Not really worth much. I imagine most people just train them to get transports or to haul cheap trash around like I did.

Nicola is being his usual self I see; grossly over-exagerating and making erroneous assumptions about my intent with little or no indication as to what it might be. Not in a literal sense or directed at anything specific anyway.

Really, I just posted because I noticed it was gank-heavy in here and needed a little balance.

T1 Industrials could use some changes if anything, and Freighters could use some tuning options that wouldn't be highly exploitable. There isn't much that wouldn't be exploitable obviously, but something would be nice.

T2 Industrials could simply use a little adjustment to bring them in line with any changes to their T1 counterparts, but really, they aren't bad as they are. Maybe a little extra ehp on the non-covops transports or some changes to resistances or transport level bonuses. Guns would be nice, (just because), and it would go with the Bustards camo-scheme.

..actually, that's not a bad idea, and would make for some interesting fits, but I don't imagine it would really be that impressive or change much with regard to how they are used.

On the other hand, it would be neat to see a fleet of 20 Heavy Transports get on a kb to the detriment of some poor, unsuspecting ganker.

Maybe they autopilot them because there isn't anything else you could do with them. What are you going to do, cycle a module?

Maybe you could be actively cooperating with a corp mate to web warp Your freighter?

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