Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Look ppl PVP in T3 and lose skillpoints. You dont wanna lose it, dont PVP in T3.
Ppl PVP in cheap clones, and dont gain SP at the rate they would with expensive clone. If you dont want that, dont PVP at all!

See, not if you could have 3 clones in your station where your corp/alliance have cloning, one with per/wil, second int/mem, and third, maybe cha/wil +3 or +4 implants.

But you want essentialy, to be able to have full +5 set, then unplug them when you go to a roam? Sorry, thats too much, its like jumpcloning w/o cooldown.

You have loss in this game. When you PVP you must accept there can be loss. Essentially you want PVP w/o loss (as your null corp/alliance have reimbursement, so you dont ever need to farm isk to PVP).

Pls, just find a game where PVP have acceptable loss to you. Your proposal would give ONLY YOU cost free PVP w/o loss (and for other nullsec dwellers in sov). How about small gangs in lowsec or npc-null which cant reimburse losses?

So its bad proposal, no matter how we look at it.

Skills are not a commodity, but just a number on the screen, unless you wish to sell the char.
Once you understand that, you'll know why ppl welp T3s no matter whats the loss. Point of the game is having fun, not looking skillpoint number getting bigger.

And if you skill a char to sell later, why then you PVP in it?

Phantasm: yes I know null alliances/corps have their list of ships and fits they replace, and wont replace something like that.

You mean people lose skills other than a single level off a single rank 1 subsystem skill when they lose T3s? You mean it's not possible to avoid skillpoint loss entirely by merely ejecting before the ship is destroyed? Gee, I didn't know!
And of course skillpoints are important, they allow us to do more things than we could before. With learning implants we can do more things faster and better. Especially with so much of the community saying that this or this must have very good support skills and everything else related before you should even attempt flying it. Is it any wonder people maximize their training rate with this kind of pressure?


This clearly wasn't about making characters to sell, because obviously there's no problem encountered there.


It was just an example. Again, the alliance only reimburses losses from official fleet ops. Unofficial roams aren't covered, no matter what ships and fits they're done in.

Yeah, and unless you're afk or a mouthbreathing idiot that PVP isn't going to lead to a pod loss.
Same with lowsec.

And? If we keep removing the effects of a loss from pvp then we might as well just play on sisi.
You could always use pirate implants instead more cost more risk more rewards.

Reread pls... I was talking about lowsec. so its not "same in lowsec" as he told. BTW you have tech, why not bother your CEO to give you some implant reimbursement from tech isk?

Low sec is empire space there are even areas of null sec that are empire space, but on topic I have don't pvp very often for this very reason I don't get to play a whole lot so I have limited availability for making isk, that needless to say if I pvp would go toward ships not implants, but because of the benefits I use learning implants and don't want to lose them. If I could remove them I would pvp more.

Yeah okay, says the guy who doesn't realize hictors can't make bubbles in lowsec.