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Frying Doom
#41 - 2012-09-07 03:07:17 UTC
rodyas wrote:
^ Its been a hot day today in GD hasn't it.

Nah just very windy...

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-09-07 03:15:47 UTC
GD is for brainless doomsay, "nerf this" nonsense, and fellatio threads for posters, devs, and maybe even the awful mods if anyone is actually brainless enough to do that.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#43 - 2012-09-07 03:18:32 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
rodyas wrote:
^ Its been a hot day today in GD hasn't it.


I dunno, in OOP today I said the one thing (for today) that's going to send me to hell Cool

Then it's just a matter of knocking off the devil and taking his place Pirate


That isn't very weather driven, and only serves to derail this thread.

It was a hot wind blowing though.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#44 - 2012-09-07 03:19:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Frying Doom wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Hardly, Jita Park Speaker's Corner is a very active section devoted to topics concerning the CSM, any topic concerning the CSM obviously belongs there. Topics concerning the CSM are not general in nature but in fact quite specific, and should be kept to the area intended for them.

"A place for everything and everything in it's place." - Benjamin Franklin

I see, you like most people, don't go their very often except during the elections.

That is correct, mainly because I still fail to see a legitimate point for the current existance of a CSM in the first place.

After researching and listening to people tell me about it's establishment as a PR maneuver following the 2007 scandal involving a CCP developer giving the alliance, Band of Brothers, valuable blueprints, and it's use again as a public relations tool to placate the masses after the failed introduction of Incarna content, and finally after listening to and reading information from the CSM itself, I believe that the Council of Stellar Management is little more than an extension of CCP's public relations department and that the so called "democratic" process that elects individuals to it is merely a popularity contest carried out by members of large nullsec alliances who ensure their "candidates" are elected through the use of thousands of alternate character votes.

Having reached this conclusion, I have no interest in the CSM or it's elections, so naturally I and many others would have no reason to visit the Jita Park Speaker's corner.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Frying Doom
#45 - 2012-09-07 03:20:51 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
GD is for brainless doomsay, "nerf this" nonsense, and fellatio threads for posters, devs, and maybe even the awful mods if anyone is actually brainless enough to do that.

^Said while posting in GD

How IronicSmile

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-09-07 03:41:03 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
GD is for brainless doomsay, "nerf this" nonsense, and fellatio threads for posters, devs, and maybe even the awful mods if anyone is actually brainless enough to do that.

^Said while posting in GD

How IronicSmile


I don't think you know what irony is!
Frying Doom
#47 - 2012-09-07 03:53:38 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
GD is for brainless doomsay, "nerf this" nonsense, and fellatio threads for posters, devs, and maybe even the awful mods if anyone is actually brainless enough to do that.

^Said while posting in GD

How IronicSmile


I don't think you know what irony is!

Wikipedia wrote:
Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is a sharp incongruity or discordance that goes beyond the simple and evident intention of words or actions. There is presently no accepted method for textually indicating irony, though an irony (punctuation) mark has been proposed. In the 1580s, Henry Denham introduced a rhetorical question mark or percontation point which looks like a reversed question mark. This mark was also proposed by the French poet Marcel Bernhardt at the end of the 19th century to indicate irony or sarcasm.

Ironic statements (verbal irony)[2] are statements that imply a meaning in opposition to their literal meaning. A situation is often said to be ironic (situational irony) if there is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result."[3] The discordance of verbal irony may be deliberately created as a means of communication (as in art or rhetoric). Descriptions or depictions of situational irony, whether in fiction or in non-fiction, serves the communicative function of sharpening or highlighting certain discordant features of reality. Verbal and situational irony are often used for emphasis in the assertion of a truth. The ironic form of simile, used in sarcasm, and some forms of litotes emphasize one's meaning by the deliberate use of language which states the opposite of the truth — or drastically and obviously understates a factual connection.

In dramatic irony, the author causes a character to speak or act erroneously, out of ignorance of some portion of the truth of which the audience is aware. In other words, the audience knows the character is making a mistake, even as the character is making it. This technique highlights the importance of a particular truth by portraying a person who is strikingly unaware of it.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

If you need pictures to go with that look at the source it has a lovely stop sign with the words No Parking within 30 feet.

So yes it is ironic to say "GD is for brainless doomsay, "nerf this" nonsense, and fellatio threads for posters, devs, and maybe even the awful mods if anyone is actually brainless enough to do that." while saying it with GD is ironic.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-09-07 05:00:31 UTC
We've now had some CSM discussion. Someone suggested a solution to the many sub forums.
Looks like it is time for this thread to be moved.

James315 for CSM 8!

Frying Doom
#49 - 2012-09-07 05:03:34 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Hardly, Jita Park Speaker's Corner is a very active section devoted to topics concerning the CSM, any topic concerning the CSM obviously belongs there. Topics concerning the CSM are not general in nature but in fact quite specific, and should be kept to the area intended for them.

"A place for everything and everything in it's place." - Benjamin Franklin

I see, you like most people, don't go their very often except during the elections.

That is correct, mainly because I still fail to see a legitimate point for the current existance of a CSM in the first place.

After researching and listening to people tell me about it's establishment as a PR maneuver following the 2007 scandal involving a CCP developer giving the alliance, Band of Brothers, valuable blueprints, and it's use again as a public relations tool to placate the masses after the failed introduction of Incarna content, and finally after listening to and reading information from the CSM itself, I believe that the Council of Stellar Management is little more than an extension of CCP's public relations department and that the so called "democratic" process that elects individuals to it is merely a popularity contest carried out by members of large nullsec alliances who ensure their "candidates" are elected through the use of thousands of alternate character votes.

Having reached this conclusion, I have no interest in the CSM or it's elections, so naturally I and many others would have no reason to visit the Jita Park Speaker's corner.

So what you are saying is that you live in the past and are failing to adapt to the present. Our entire planet is based off the creation of something for a purpose and it being used for other things as time goes on.

Yes the CSM was created for PR but that is no longer completely what it does. I will not say it does not function in some part as a PR tool as last year demonstrated when they took the CSM chairman to Iceland for an Emergency Summit.

But PR is no longer its primary function, it is a source of feedback to CCP and a source of ideas so we can all have a better game tomorrow.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-09-07 05:06:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
Paul Oliver wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
In the thread in question, I think it is because certain players started reporting the thread knowing it would be sent to the graveyard; and we all know the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Hardly, Jita Park Speaker's Corner is a very active section devoted to topics concerning the CSM, any topic concerning the CSM obviously belongs there. Topics concerning the CSM are not general in nature but in fact quite specific, and should be kept to the area intended for them.

"A place for everything and everything in it's place." - Benjamin Franklin


Very active my ass.

In a matter of hours (perhaps a day) Petreus' thread climbed to 10+ pages in GD. Since the move to Jita Park, it has had what 1/2 a page of posts and has not had activity for 9 hours.

James315 for CSM 8!

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#51 - 2012-09-07 05:12:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Abel Merkabah wrote:
We've now had some CSM discussion. Someone suggested a solution to the many sub forums.
Looks like it is time for this thread to be moved.

Off to Jita Park then. See you guys later.

That forum only heats up around the election time then it goes back to cobwebs until more people want to be the XXYY's Friend before having a hilarious series of faceplant moments leading to a period of marginalization in the minds of forumgoers - at best.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-09-07 05:13:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
In the thread in question, I think it is because certain players started reporting the thread knowing it would be sent to the graveyard; and we all know the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Hardly, Jita Park Speaker's Corner is a very active section devoted to topics concerning the CSM, any topic concerning the CSM obviously belongs there. Topics concerning the CSM are not general in nature but in fact quite specific, and should be kept to the area intended for them.

"A place for everything and everything in it's place." - Benjamin Franklin


My ass is very active.

In a matter of hours (perhaps a day) Petreus' thread climbed to 10+ pages in GD. Since the move to Jita Park, it has had what 1/2 a page of posts and has not had activity for 9 hours.

Yea I imagine they get a fair share of csm related troll topics over there so that doesn't really surprise me. P
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
gulftobay
Mesotopia
#53 - 2012-09-07 05:37:03 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Very active my ass.

In a matter of hours (perhaps a day) Petreus' thread climbed to 10+ pages in GD. Since the move to Jita Park, it has had what 1/2 a page of posts and has not had activity for 9 hours.


A question that comes to mind then, why would this capsuleer's candidacy belong in General Discussion while others are in the correct forum, Jita Park Speakers Corner?
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-09-07 05:41:06 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
GD is for brainless doomsay, "nerf this" nonsense, and fellatio threads for posters, devs, and maybe even the awful mods if anyone is actually brainless enough to do that.

^Said while posting in GD

How IronicSmile


I don't think you know what irony is!

Wikipedia wrote:
Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is a sharp incongruity or discordance that goes beyond the simple and evident intention of words or actions. There is presently no accepted method for textually indicating irony, though an irony (punctuation) mark has been proposed. In the 1580s, Henry Denham introduced a rhetorical question mark or percontation point which looks like a reversed question mark. This mark was also proposed by the French poet Marcel Bernhardt at the end of the 19th century to indicate irony or sarcasm.

Ironic statements (verbal irony)[2] are statements that imply a meaning in opposition to their literal meaning. A situation is often said to be ironic (situational irony) if there is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result."[3] The discordance of verbal irony may be deliberately created as a means of communication (as in art or rhetoric). Descriptions or depictions of situational irony, whether in fiction or in non-fiction, serves the communicative function of sharpening or highlighting certain discordant features of reality. Verbal and situational irony are often used for emphasis in the assertion of a truth. The ironic form of simile, used in sarcasm, and some forms of litotes emphasize one's meaning by the deliberate use of language which states the opposite of the truth — or drastically and obviously understates a factual connection.

In dramatic irony, the author causes a character to speak or act erroneously, out of ignorance of some portion of the truth of which the audience is aware. In other words, the audience knows the character is making a mistake, even as the character is making it. This technique highlights the importance of a particular truth by portraying a person who is strikingly unaware of it.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

If you need pictures to go with that look at the source it has a lovely stop sign with the words No Parking within 30 feet.

So yes it is ironic to say "GD is for brainless doomsay, "nerf this" nonsense, and fellatio threads for posters, devs, and maybe even the awful mods if anyone is actually brainless enough to do that." while saying it with GD is ironic.


I'm not reading that wall of text but RE: your last paragraph, Nope, idiot~
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-09-07 05:41:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
gulftobay wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Very active my ass.

In a matter of hours (perhaps a day) Petreus' thread climbed to 10+ pages in GD. Since the move to Jita Park, it has had what 1/2 a page of posts and has not had activity for 9 hours.


A question that comes to mind then, why would this capsuleer's candidacy belong in General Discussion while others are in the correct forum, Jita Park Speakers Corner?


Not really what we are talking about.

The correct question should be, why do we need Jita corner, or any of the other sub forums? Or at least why do we need so many sub forums?

The follow up to these questions is why are some threads moved and not others?

These two questions lead to the question "What is GD's point?".

If you will read the thread, you can see that is what we are discussing...not how amazing James315 would be as a CSM member.

James315 for CSM 8!

Frying Doom
#56 - 2012-09-07 05:44:57 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:


I'm not reading that wall of text but RE: your last paragraph, Nope, idiot~

I think your inability to read explains your inability to understand.

Maybe you should stop posting before everyone see's the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Josef Djugashvilis
#57 - 2012-09-07 07:11:13 UTC
Eve has other forums apart form GD?

This is not a signature.

Frying Doom
#58 - 2012-09-07 07:19:54 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Eve has other forums apart form GD?

Yes some of them so good they did them twice, like F&I and Assembly Hall

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-09-07 07:32:15 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Eve has other forums apart form GD?

Yes some of them so good they did them twice, like F&I and Assembly Hall


Now now...

One is for Devs to ignore, one is for CSM to ignore...obviously that required 2 different sub forums...Roll

James315 for CSM 8!

Frying Doom
#60 - 2012-09-07 07:35:51 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Eve has other forums apart form GD?

Yes some of them so good they did them twice, like F&I and Assembly Hall


Now now...

One is for Devs to ignore, one is for CSM to ignore...obviously that required 2 different sub forums...Roll

F&I should be scrapped, it is just an archaic relic, as why have a CSM and then have an ideas forum designed to bypass the CSM.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!