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"The Mittani.com" vs "Eve News24"

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Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2012-12-24 20:53:00 UTC
Thanks for helping me prove the whole idiot thing

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

Miri Amatonur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-12-24 21:47:54 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Thanks for helping me prove the whole idiot thing


Well this is as insightful as your last post. Atleast your sentence is longer this time.

Grath Telkin wrote:

You're an idiot


I can see an improvement in your argumentation. Keep trying and one day you can compete with someone in a discussion.

Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-12-25 05:11:23 UTC
Well.. I.. Uh..




I am speechless.

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages

Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-12-25 05:16:54 UTC
Miri Amatonur wrote:

TheMittani is no brand outside of EVE and maybe SA(, yet).

You struggle to establish it within the game media scene.


Oh but because I love waving this around


https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/277294754612539392

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages

Miri Amatonur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-12-25 13:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Miri Amatonur
Robus Muvila wrote:
Miri Amatonur wrote:

TheMittani is no brand outside of EVE and maybe SA(, yet).

You struggle to establish it within the game media scene.


Oh but because I love waving this around

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/277294754612539392


Wow it must have been hard to find something substantial to back your claims. Your last post before i asked for something more than your self-written statement was 2012-12-15.
It took you alot of time to come up with something.

John Smedley. Vice President of Sony Online Entertainment. So altruistic of him. There are no financial interests of SOE.

Your site features Planetside2 isn't it an SOE title. Dust 514 isn't exlusive for Playstation 3, isn't it.
It was quite easy for Mr. Smedley to help Sony with his comment on twitter.

Some statement motivated by financial self-interest isn't a good prove. Will it take a few more weeks to dig something up?

Some more interesting facts.

The site name was registered back in May 2012. Not that long after the Fanfest 2012 desaster. Something that damaged your "brand" quite well. Pirate

Sitestats prove your claim that you had about 1 million hits so far. More than 2/3 are from the USA. Thought that EVE and the other games you feature are global brands it's a sign that you struggle with the self-claimed themittani brand.
The playerbases outside the States are large enough but seems they don't like your site.

Anyway what about the propaganda of the Goons between your "rungs on the ladder of success" work's?
Shootmenot dammit
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-12-26 12:33:44 UTC
Robus Muvila wrote:


Oh but because I love waving this around


https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/277294754612539392


Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

Not only you promote his games on your site.
He is also a player within the CFC, as he admitted himself.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/207701661886586881

I would take those compliments with a grain of salt, if I was one of your readers.
Miri Amatonur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-12-26 15:40:10 UTC
Shootmenot dammit wrote:
Robus Muvila wrote:


Oh but because I love waving this around


https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/277294754612539392


Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

Not only you promote his games on your site.
He is also a player within the CFC, as he admitted himself.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/207701661886586881

I would take those compliments with a grain of salt, if I was one of your readers.


Thank you for providing this information.
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-12-27 08:24:00 UTC
Miri Amatonur wrote:
Shootmenot dammit wrote:
Robus Muvila wrote:


Oh but because I love waving this around


https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/277294754612539392


Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

Not only you promote his games on your site.
He is also a player within the CFC, as he admitted himself.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/207701661886586881

I would take those complimen)ts with a grain of salt, if I was one of your readers.


Thank you for providing this information.


Didn't you know? Steve Balmer is in Pandemic Legion.

(he isn't really)

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages

Miri Amatonur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-12-27 08:59:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Miri Amatonur
Robus Muvila wrote:
(...)
Didn't you know? Steve Balmer is in Pandemic Legion.

(he isn't really)


Well, lets go back to the topic of the discussion of the last pages.

Themittani.com is:

  • A propaganda tool of the CFC and Goons in the style of Xinhua or Pravda.
  • You struggle to establish it within the game media scene (featuring multiple MMORPG).
  • Your intependent writers are a wrap for the CFC/Goon propaganda and are the rungs on the ladder of success (#211) to become something in the game media scene.

TheMittani is no brand outside of EVE and maybe SA(, yet).

A self-written statement and flowers from within CFC are no prove for your ... lets say ... "good intentions (EVE-wise)". Your list of metagaming is just to long for that.

Don't read there!
Don't work for them!
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-12-27 22:06:19 UTC
Satoru Iwata gatecamps at EC-

I've seen him.

(Not really)

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#71 - 2012-12-28 22:07:01 UTC
mittani: very intelligent guy. clear, focused articles with overarching themes.

his contributing writers: SA forum lurkers moonlighting as EVE players moonlighting as writers. if anyone is editing those articles, they must be saying, "... ****-it, just publish."
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-12-29 04:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Robus Muvila
Rain6637 wrote:
mittani: very intelligent guy. clear, focused articles with overarching themes.

his contributing writers: SA forum lurkers moonlighting as EVE players moonlighting as writers. if anyone is editing those articles, they must be saying, "... ****-it, just publish."


I'll bite, we still stumble, but that is as a result of the sheer speed that we're growing. We weren't expecting torrent of interest and had to very quickly to adapt from being well meaning space nerds to being Human Resource Managers, Social Media Managers as publishers. We're still pushing to improve a we appear to be approaching some semblance of stability for the first time

We've launched, we have weathered the heartbreak and combined media f*ckery that surrounded the loss of Vile Rat (Rest his soul) then Now we can start doing stuff.

Watch this space.

(Hey ISD, the curse filter doesn't pick up fuckery so I censored it myself, might wanna fix that.)

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#73 - 2012-12-29 07:40:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
thanks. I would never make it a goal to **** off the beehive, or at least I don't know why I would, and I swear it wasn't a troll comment.

I understand deadlines, and I also know what a paper looks like after a hasty edit. it's the smaller things like grammar and spelling errors that raise questions in my mind; I'm not counting the higher-level deficiencies. (such as clarity of thought, flow, active vs passive voice, and main themes in an article).

I remember the public announcement of openings for contributing writers. after half the articles made me wonder how so many errors got through an editor, (errors that are quickly caught by a fresh pair of eyes) I figured:

the average goon writing for mittani, and no editor.
Miri Amatonur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-12-30 17:22:12 UTC
Like Xinhua or Pravda themittani.com features the news of the "Central Committee of the Goons" (GSF CEO Update) monthly.

Yeah i screened your headlines Mr. Muvila.

As expected this and other Goonswarm propaganda could be found surrounded by "intependent" stuff. Even true stories like the loss of that Guardian-Vexor.
It's the same style Xinhua and Pravda present/presented their news.

Can we expect to read something about the annual meeting of the "Congress of the Goons" in 2013? Maybe the next 5 year plan as well?

Don't read there
Don't work for them
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-12-30 20:05:11 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
thanks. I would never make it a goal to **** off the beehive, or at least I don't know why I would, and I swear it wasn't a troll comment.

I understand deadlines, and I also know what a paper looks like after a hasty edit. it's the smaller things like grammar and spelling errors that raise questions in my mind; I'm not counting the higher-level deficiencies. (such as clarity of thought, flow, active vs passive voice, and main themes in an article).

I remember the public announcement of openings for contributing writers. after half the articles made me wonder how so many errors got through an editor, (errors that are quickly caught by a fresh pair of eyes) I figured:

the average goon writing for mittani, and no editor.


What can I say, every month we probably cycle through 30% of our writing staff, trimming out people who were one shot wonders, or ones who just didn't give a **** and hiring in new hungry writers. We can only keep doing this until we get a team that is accomplished, literate and responsible.

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages

Rain6635
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#76 - 2012-12-31 03:28:23 UTC
thanks again for replying, I wouldn't give this feedback if I didn't know someone was "there," and I hope it's ok with you.

It's tough to find quality when the help is free. I think a big improvement could be made by giving writers a focused premise, rather than free rein in a broad topic such as a video game. some of the articles read like laundry lists of facts, and it's up to the reader to piece together their significance.

in contrast, mittani's articles read like bedtime stories about hulkageddon and burn jita. Smile

I like reading reviews of new games, and the question I'm asking is: would I want to play it? as an eve player who is unfamiliar with a game, I might bother to form a conclusion, but it's still meaningless when I don't see how the game relates to me.

standardized icons or info boxes right at the top of the body of an article would make this easier to decide. how was the game scored by some popular game reviewers?

FPS/RPG/MMO
PC/Console
cost? digital download? where is it available, or when
size of player base
gore, ESRB rating
who is the developer and what other games have they made?

and lastly, bits of drama could be thrown in to make it juicy. developer or player scandals... which of course, EVE has plenty of, but what about these games? do they have player backstabbing, a mittani, Dust514, a mintchip, tournaments, conspiracies, game politics~

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Wo nko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2012-12-31 04:55:32 UTC
this thread needs to be locked, it doesnt' belong here.

eve news 24 and the goons site do not speak on behalf of the eve population, they are propaganda sites (evenews24 less so)

THEY DO NOT SPEAK FOR EVE PLAYERS BANN THIS THREAD
Rain6635
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2012-12-31 05:58:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6635
ANyway...

evenews24 is too bright in my dim room.

also ridden with teenager writing style, while lacking a redeeming figurehead such as mittani (and riverini does NOT satisfy that billing)

some gems, though. I enjoy Jester's Treck in particular.

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Wo nko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-12-31 06:45:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Wo nko
Rain6635 wrote:
ANyway...

evenews24 is too bright in my dim room.

also ridden with teenager writing style, while lacking a redeeming figurehead such as mittani (and riverini does NOT satisfy that billing)

some gems, though. I enjoy Jester's Treck in particular.



you do not represent "my eve" and you don't belong here... please stop trying to look important, because you're not

[EDIT] please ccp think hard about what this means to your forums... they bash you with their articles http://themittani.com/features/rise-and-fall-caod
Rain6635
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#80 - 2012-12-31 07:01:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6635
lol wut

quoted for posterity

Wo nko wrote:
Rain6635 wrote:
ANyway...

evenews24 is too bright in my dim room.

also ridden with teenager writing style, while lacking a redeeming figurehead such as mittani (and riverini does NOT satisfy that billing)

some gems, though. I enjoy Jester's Treck in particular.



you do not represent "my eve" and you don't belong here... please stop trying to look important, because you're not

[EDIT] please ccp think hard about what this means to your forums... they bash you with their articles http://themittani.com/features/rise-and-fall-caod

Rainf1337 on Twitch