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Doctor ForumAlt

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#21 - 2012-09-05 15:21:55 UTC

The true goal of this thread was a short discussion on cause, effect and outcome of the changes to the miners in high-sec.

The fact that AFK mining seems to be the overall outcome of the barge changes. Especially the changes to the Mackinaw.

This said outcome is the proliferation of ice miners and a drastic (Even more drastic than present) drop in the price of Ice products.

Am I going to take advantage of this? DUH!

I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen."

Imperial Margarine 2,206
Karl Hobb Imperial Margarine Likes received: 2,206	#22 - 2012-09-05 15:23:16 UTC 2 Doctor ForumAlt wrote: It is nice to see so many pilots that have morning wood for James "Morning" wood? How about all day and all night wood! A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

The 420th Token 56
Zera Kerrigan The 420th Token Likes received: 56	#23 - 2012-09-05 15:28:26 UTC No problems matey. Always here for ya.

Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 875
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance Likes received: 875	#24 - 2012-09-05 15:32:35 UTC Yeah, it does make it a lot easier to mine ice and not be at the keyboard. If the other ore types were as large as ice, I'd probably do the same with them.

Yokai Mitsuhide

Doomheim

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#25 - 2012-09-05 15:44:46 UTC

Doctor ForumAlt wrote:

A quick note;

I am a miner and industrialist. I am not and would never use macro software to mine.

But now, thanks in part to the amazing barge nerf, my passive income is now amazing.

I go to work and fire up my second laptop. I open two clients.

I set my well tanked barges on some ice, drop a few drones and go about my daily business. Checking the miners every so often to make sure all is well.

When they are full, I dock up, unload, rinse and repeat.

Of course, the price of ice product is going to crash out in no time and this passive income will be next to nothing.

Was this really the plan? Make AFK mining so easy that people would stop using macros?

I have anticipated losing ships to gankers. But so far just a few bumpers who think they are cool and neat and have discovered some new way to make me pay them. Give me a break.

lol Obvious James 315/Herr Wilkus alt is obvious.

Olympus Gods 233
Trendon Evenstar Olympus Gods Likes received: 233	#26 - 2012-09-05 16:47:16 UTC Doctor ForumAlt wrote: But now, thanks in part to the amazing barge nerf, my passive income is now amazing. Way to go CCP.

Doomheim 32
Too-Boku Doomheim Likes received: 32	#27 - 2012-09-05 16:49:04 UTC WTB several high sec miner chars. PM me details please tia.

Gizznitt Malikite

Agony Unleashed

Agony Empire

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#28 - 2012-09-05 17:23:17 UTC

Doctor ForumAlt wrote:

Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long...

Kang Industrial 157
Volar Kang Kang Industrial Likes received: 157	#29 - 2012-09-05 17:26:58 UTC 2 I used a macro once, but I didnt inhale.

Yokai Mitsuhide

Doomheim

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#30 - 2012-09-05 17:31:10 UTC

Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Doctor ForumAlt wrote:

Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long...

Would get rid of those giant lovely looking pieces of ice, that would suck.
They could just make it so strip miners need to manually activated every cycle, that would get rid of a lot of afk mining but bots won't have any issue getting around such things which is the real issue...not afking.


Doctor ForumAlt Likes received: 33	#31 - 2012-09-05 17:52:12 UTC Volar Kang wrote: I used a macro once, but I didnt inhale. I think you can run for CSM on that platform I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen."

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baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#32 - 2012-09-05 18:03:45 UTC 1 Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long... Reduce the mack ehp to the level of the hulk and we will increase the price for ice for you again

Doctor ForumAlt

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#33 - 2012-09-05 18:06:46 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long...

Reduce the mack ehp to the level of the hulk and we will increase the price for ice for you again Blink

I have to agree - The EHP on the mack is a little bit high if actually fit to tank. But most are fit for yield in hi-sec

I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen."

baltec1

Bat Country

Pandemic Horde

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#34 - 2012-09-05 18:08:37 UTC

Doctor ForumAlt wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long...

Reduce the mack ehp to the level of the hulk and we will increase the price for ice for you again Blink

I have to agree - The EHP on the mack is a little bit high if actually fit to tank. But most are fit for yield in hi-sec

Even the yield fits are unprofitable to gank.

Ranger 1

Ranger Corp

Vae. Victis.

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#35 - 2012-09-05 18:10:36 UTC

Doctor ForumAlt wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long...

Reduce the mack ehp to the level of the hulk and we will increase the price for ice for you again Blink

I have to agree - The EHP on the mack is a little bit high if actually fit to tank. But most are fit for yield in hi-sec

Then they should be easy to pop?

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Doctor ForumAlt

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#36 - 2012-09-05 18:14:00 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

Doctor ForumAlt wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long...

Reduce the mack ehp to the level of the hulk and we will increase the price for ice for you again Blink

I have to agree - The EHP on the mack is a little bit high if actually fit to tank. But most are fit for yield in hi-sec

Even the yield fits are unprofitable to gank.

I don't think any barge should be"Profitable" to gank in high sec . But it should not be so difficult or expensive to discourage people from going after them. Presently, it does take great expense to gank one. This should be a little more balnced.

I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen."

You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3,946
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#37 - 2012-09-05 18:14:16 UTC 1 When Earth goes into space in the future they will invent a new space fruit called lemomelon which is lemon and melon mixed together. It was very tasty and it was invented in the future. Oh god.

Gizznitt Malikite

Agony Unleashed

Agony Empire

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#38 - 2012-09-05 18:15:21 UTC

Ranger 1 wrote:

Doctor ForumAlt wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Solution.... Make Highsec Ice Roids exhaustible.... If you have to target new Ice roids every 5-10 minutes, you'll not be able to afk in an ice field all day long...

Reduce the mack ehp to the level of the hulk and we will increase the price for ice for you again Blink

I have to agree - The EHP on the mack is a little bit high if actually fit to tank. But most are fit for yield in hi-sec

Then they should be easy to pop?

IMO, a tank fit mack should be hard to gank.... 35-45k EHP is reasonable....
A yield fit mack should be much easier to gank.... 10-20k EHP is reasonable...

Doctor ForumAlt

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#39 - 2012-09-05 18:20:44 UTC

Riot Girl wrote:

When Earth goes into space in the future they will invent a new space fruit called lemomelon which is lemon and melon mixed together. It was very tasty and it was invented in the future.

Bear

"You know, it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."

I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen."

Wandering Star Enterprises 56
Jypsie Wandering Star Enterprises Likes received: 56	#40 - 2012-09-05 20:49:07 UTC Calfis wrote: non judgement wrote: OP is obviously an alt of James 315. Then who is James an alt of? dolan