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The Supercapital Nerf

Author
Arrynoss
Doomheim
#21 - 2011-09-30 08:45:06 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Jaiimez Skor wrote:

I understand what you are saying, however I ask you this, is the said ship you are speaking of (I am not american so do not know exactly what the ship you speak of it) completely defenceless against a smaller ship, it would surely have defence methods to defend itself from smaller ships or targets, however it would not be as effective against them as it would be against say for example a larger target, this is what I am suggest, make Supercarriers very ineffective against subcapitals, but don't make them 100% defenceless against them.


A Nimitz class aircraft carrier is the most potent individual ship on the planet, outside of a nuclear missile fleet sub.
The purpose of a aircraft carrier is force projection, which is the same role as a supercarrier in Eve.

A Nimitz class aircraft carrier does indeed have defenses against almost any other boat that floats on or below the surface of an ocean. But they SO MUCH MORE vulnerable when they don't have 2-3 Los Angeles class subs, 4-6 anti-sub and anti-aircraft destroyers, and a Tico class command ship/missle cruiser sweeping the seas around them.

Without that protection, a single diesel-electric sub MIGHT be able to cripple a Nimitz, with a couple well-aimed, lucky torpedos. That same sub would have zero chance if the Nimitz detected it before the sub could fire its torps.

The same concept should apply to Eve.
Consider your Heavy Interdictor example.
The Heavy Interdictor cannot kill a supercarrier by itself. It can possibly pin down the supercarrier.
Now, if the supercarrier had support ships with it capable of destroying the Heavy Dic, then we would have a more reasonable situation.

I would like to see a ship out there that has the same capability as my diesel-electric sub scenario.
Imagine a ship class that has zero chance of killing a supercap, but something that would have the ability to approach by stealth, and have a small percentage chance to cripple the supercap IF, and I repeat IF, the supercarrier has no smaller support ships.

Imagine a Black ops class BS that could fire a weapon that has a percentage chance to kill the jump and warp capabilities of the super cap for say, 2 hours. Plus the said supercarrier COULD NOT LOG OFF GRID for the same time.



Whilst your analogy is indeed correct, if the USA were able to afford to deploy 100 Nimitz class vessels to any particular sortie, they would minimise the outline risks significantly, to the point of nearly avoiding them altogether. Between the strike craft available and the ability for a group of each Nimitz vessel to prioritise the search for certain targets, the risk factor would be substantially lower.

There is no inherent bonus to mixing a fleet in Eve as you would in a real life analogy simply because the resources are there to build x number of the best ship available. Nerf an SC today, the next FOTM will be spammed tomorrow. Until there are bonii to bringing a mixed and balanced fleet, this will always be the case in any PvP game.
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