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chris elliot
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#21 - 2012-08-31 02:49:36 UTC
It would appear that OP is a full time carebear and that k162's are ruining his isk/hr.

Keep 'em coming gents. Moar idiot tears is always good.
Dino Boff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-08-31 02:52:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Dino Boff
To limit the number of k162 wh in known-space CCP would need to remove system with a static wh to known-space or to change those static. I am not sure people who live there would be happy with that. Same for people looking for connection to those system to get a route to known-space.
XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing
Phantom-Recon
#23 - 2012-08-31 04:09:15 UTC
Too many wormholes? lol that's funny. I was going to suggest the addition of more wormholes. I seem to come across a lot of the same ones every other day. I'm in favor of more wh systems, not less.
Frying Doom
#24 - 2012-08-31 04:13:13 UTC
XxRTEKxX wrote:
Too many wormholes? lol that's funny. I was going to suggest the addition of more wormholes. I seem to come across a lot of the same ones every other day. I'm in favor of more wh systems, not less.

Yeah I will admit another 2000 lower class would be a nice addition and give people more room to grow

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-08-31 04:17:08 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
XxRTEKxX wrote:
Too many wormholes? lol that's funny. I was going to suggest the addition of more wormholes. I seem to come across a lot of the same ones every other day. I'm in favor of more wh systems, not less.

Yeah I will admit another 2000 lower class would be a nice addition and give people more room to grow


You won't need more WH's after they nerf towers in low class WH's there will be lots of them empty, if not by choice it will take a month or two for the rest to be removed with little force required.
Frying Doom
#26 - 2012-08-31 04:24:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Wolvun wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
XxRTEKxX wrote:
Too many wormholes? lol that's funny. I was going to suggest the addition of more wormholes. I seem to come across a lot of the same ones every other day. I'm in favor of more wh systems, not less.

Yeah I will admit another 2000 lower class would be a nice addition and give people more room to grow


You won't need more WH's after they nerf towers in low class WH's there will be lots of them empty, if not by choice it will take a month or two for the rest to be removed with little force required.

Yeah if they bring those changes in they could remove a lot of the lower wormholes and just have 1 of each class. That would be plenty for everyone who ever wants to take the wormhole ghost town tour.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Duncan Harms
Troll Legion
#27 - 2012-08-31 04:25:34 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
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the systems themselves are fine.... make it harder to get in and out. If you want the tons of ISK a WH can generate... then make the players work for it.



Somebody apparently HAS not lived in wormhole space enough to understand we DO work for it.

Mate.. you think scanning in known space is bad? Try scanning your way through 3 different wormhole systems with about 18-30 signatures each system just so you can get to known space.

Oh.. and unlike your easy mode stargates all those connecting wormhole leading to your home system have timers and mass limits that YOU must remember so somebody in your corp doesn't get stuck..... THEN there's inhabitant who can collapse any of those "easy mode stargates" as you call them. Effectively ruining several hours of work.

Still think wormholes are easy?

Btw... trying to apply RL science to a computer game? Hello! If I want RL I'll not PAY for a game. Thanks again.

P.S. You'll find exploration gets a whole lot more profitable if you LEAVE high security and go to LOWSECURITY. You can mail me if you need help with that.
Duncan Harms
Troll Legion
#28 - 2012-08-31 04:31:33 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:

If there is a wormhole sys that's not occupied anymore, I've yet to see it.


Just ran a C5 last night that was unoccupied. Ripped off over a billion isk of gas. I find LOTS of unoccupied wormholes. But I've been doing this since Apocrypha.

Btw... Who cares if it's occupied? I've raided lots of other people's wormhole while they're there. In fact I just ran a radar site in someone else's C3 today. They POS'd up and logged.

Maybe what you really need is a corp who cares about your wormhole hard luck. We're recruiting. We'll teach you how to be a big mean carebear and make the little wimpy carebears run for their forcefields.

C'mon. Man up or quit complaining.
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#29 - 2012-08-31 05:49:21 UTC
Initially regarding the issue from hi it might seem more appropriate if there were fewer connections (not wh) between the wh's (basiccally fewer k162 and what not).

However, that would mean a static only spawned every other day.

That would probably mean I'd get stuck in polaris every other day with nothing to do but carebearing. Not my cup of tea.

So from a gameplay perspective we need those connections.

And fyi wh space is nothing like null space.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-08-31 06:54:19 UTC
you high?

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-08-31 08:45:44 UTC
I especially liked how OP called someone "fail PvPer" for "not being able to gatecamp" instead of hunting in Anoikis systems. After compalining that wormholes interfere with his high-sec exploration. That part was just glorious.

Another part is how OP suggested to effectively replace wormhole space with what would be something like low or null... because WH space is old. Sure, K-space is so much more fresh and exciting.

Jokes aside, we are here to do what rocks our boat, and high-sec explorers and WH dwellers are not exception. No need to cause drama where there's none.

P.S. You may find it useful to ignore "unknown" signatures.

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Orion Heleneto
DarkSeedUnity
iNaPrOpRiAtE fIt
#32 - 2012-08-31 08:50:04 UTC
But don't you if he ignores the unknown sigs he will miss out on all of his High Sec "fun" exploration. I bet OP thinks K-space is the final frontier for him. Meeting new exciting alien races and saving people from danger. oh wait that's Star Trek.
Frying Doom
#33 - 2012-08-31 10:03:48 UTC
Orion Heleneto wrote:
But don't you if he ignores the unknown sigs he will miss out on all of his High Sec "fun" exploration. I bet OP thinks K-space is the final frontier for him. Meeting new exciting alien races and saving people from danger. oh wait that's Star Trek.

Yeah but guaranteed that if he visits a few wormholes he will end up getting butt reamed so badly he will think he got an anal probing from aliens.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Gumby Ambraelle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-08-31 11:00:05 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
not sure if trolling or just incredibly stupid.


I am going with the second option....
Meytal
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-08-31 13:01:52 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
ok..... I'll dumb this down for the slow people in the crowd.......


The systems are fine. make more, who cares... but my god, make them a little more challenging to get into... and out of.

basically they have turned into Easy Mode null sec settling. The new practice is 'Hey, if you can't hold a charted null sec system, move into a WH sys, build a carrier or two, and its yours. '


If you dont like the null sec exit you just scanned down, wait 5 mins and a hi sec exit will spawn. Easy mode gatecamping for fail pvpers who cant handle not knowing if a bigger fleet is going to warp in on you. I could go on, but hopefully you get the point.

the systems themselves are fine.... make it harder to get in and out. If you want the tons of ISK a WH can generate... then make the players work for it.

Quoted for truth. Wormhole space is for us carebears and Nullsec types who lose Sov because they get picked on by the mega coalitions. You just need a small tower and a few capitals, and no one will ever bother you.

The only bad thing about wormhole space is that the Local channel is somewhat broken. You'll need to say hi to everyone who's there before you show up. We're friendly and will be happy to welcome you to wormhole space, but you'll need to take the initiative and let us know you're here. Otherwise we might pass one another and not even realize it, missing out on wonderful opportunities.

Is there no conversation in Local? Start chatting and make new friends!
Kelhund
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-08-31 14:49:23 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
OK... we've all been in a wormhole... we've been to the puppet show, and we saw the strrings...

Now... Can we please have fewer wormholes? I'm not asking for fewer wormhole systems, but everytime you break the old Sisters probes out, get ready for a nice, mind numbing day of scanning sites... theres always an irritating little wormhole raising it's ugly head and always being the one sig that you say 'Hey, lets see what this is'...

If there is a wormhole sys that's not occupied anymore, I've yet to see it.

Yes... they were great when they were the new kid on the block, but let's be honest... the new has worn off and they are just getting irritating and in the way these days when you're trying to do a little exploration profit for the day.

Seriously... a wormhole in EVERY SINGLE SYSTEM in EVE is a bit of overkill IMO. They are WORMHOLES... and personally everytime I've watched NOVA or the Science Channel, the common opionion is that IF they do exist... odds are, they would not be very common.

Maybe CCP could throw a new dynamic on them. Make them less common. Put a little of the Mystery back into the idea of the elusive wormhole.

One wormhole a day in the actual WH systems instead of constant exits. Place them in explored space randomly... not half a dozen of them in every single system in EVE... Really?

I loved the idea of them, but TBH they have just become an irritation because there are just WAAAAAAAY too many of them.

Just an opinion




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That said, agreed and +1.
Malception
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-08-31 15:12:42 UTC
OP, your opinion sucks. If you want stargates then stay in kspace.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#38 - 2012-08-31 15:44:26 UTC
1) The number of wormholes between k-space and w-space are fine. If you can't scan down everything in a k-space system in a few minutes, you need to work on your scanning skills...and I DON'T mean the kind you put in the queue.

2) While the OP might have lived in w-space at some point, he doesn't appear to understand how it works or the culture that has grown up in it.

3) This thread is funny.

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stup idity
#39 - 2012-08-31 20:43:41 UTC
Somehow I get what the OP is trying to tell us. i also have to admit that reducing the number of connections between w-space and k-space might even bring a little bit of the mystery back that is supposed to be connected to wormholes.

Reducing the number of k-space connections by a noticeable amount (by two thirds or more) would bring quite a few problems with it: gimping wh logistics and ruining the wh day tripping being two obvious ones.

Besides that, the unknown in unknown space was only as temporary as the danger in incursions and the war in faction warfare. But that's not due to too many k-space connections, but mostly due to all those sites, tools and information helping players to get along in wh-space.

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Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#40 - 2012-08-31 21:16:01 UTC
I will attempt to be coherent and to the point.

NO -

l;r version

The way CCP has established their wormhole system is fine and should not be toyed with because a single person is upset that K162's are messing with their adorable k-space activities. The reason the OP is seeing a ton of inhabited systems is because, as the ISD stated, someone opened that hole to the known system. There is no reason to change the system, and the fact that references to "actual" theories on the science channel makes this proposal laughable at best.

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