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Too Many Wormholes

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StoneColdHeart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-30 23:10:23 UTC
OK... we've all been in a wormhole... we've been to the puppet show, and we saw the strrings...

Now... Can we please have fewer wormholes? I'm not asking for fewer wormhole systems, but everytime you break the old Sisters probes out, get ready for a nice, mind numbing day of scanning sites... theres always an irritating little wormhole raising it's ugly head and always being the one sig that you say 'Hey, lets see what this is'...

If there is a wormhole sys that's not occupied anymore, I've yet to see it.

Yes... they were great when they were the new kid on the block, but let's be honest... the new has worn off and they are just getting irritating and in the way these days when you're trying to do a little exploration profit for the day.

Seriously... a wormhole in EVERY SINGLE SYSTEM in EVE is a bit of overkill IMO. They are WORMHOLES... and personally everytime I've watched NOVA or the Science Channel, the common opionion is that IF they do exist... odds are, they would not be very common.

Maybe CCP could throw a new dynamic on them. Make them less common. Put a little of the Mystery back into the idea of the elusive wormhole.

One wormhole a day in the actual WH systems instead of constant exits. Place them in explored space randomly... not half a dozen of them in every single system in EVE... Really?

I loved the idea of them, but TBH they have just become an irritation because there are just WAAAAAAAY too many of them.

Just an opinion
QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
#2 - 2012-08-30 23:17:21 UTC
What?
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-30 23:24:41 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:
What?



I think he's complaining about all the K162s that pop up ALL OVER high-sec. That's why they always appear to always be inhabited btw; they're likely opened from the w-space side.

I found it to be quite annoying myself; at least a separate category would be nice so Plexers don't have to sort through 25 wormholes to find the 1 remaining Guristas plex that already had a Tengu in it that one time in ... what just happened?


Svodola Darkfury.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-30 23:28:04 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
OK... we've all been in a wormhole... we've been to the puppet show, and we saw the strrings...

Now... Can we please have fewer wormholes? I'm not asking for fewer wormhole systems, but everytime you break the old Sisters probes out, get ready for a nice, mind numbing day of scanning sites... theres always an irritating little wormhole raising it's ugly head and always being the one sig that you say 'Hey, lets see what this is'...

If there is a wormhole sys that's not occupied anymore, I've yet to see it.

Yes... they were great when they were the new kid on the block, but let's be honest... the new has worn off and they are just getting irritating and in the way these days when you're trying to do a little exploration profit for the day.

Seriously... a wormhole in EVERY SINGLE SYSTEM in EVE is a bit of overkill IMO. They are WORMHOLES... and personally everytime I've watched NOVA or the Science Channel, the common opionion is that IF they do exist... odds are, they would not be very common.

Maybe CCP could throw a new dynamic on them. Make them less common. Put a little of the Mystery back into the idea of the elusive wormhole.

One wormhole a day in the actual WH systems instead of constant exits. Place them in explored space randomly... not half a dozen of them in every single system in EVE... Really?

I loved the idea of them, but TBH they have just become an irritation because there are just WAAAAAAAY too many of them.

Just an opinion


learn2scan
QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
#5 - 2012-08-30 23:29:05 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
StoneColdHeart wrote:
OK... we've all been in a wormhole... we've been to the puppet show, and we saw the strrings...

Now... Can we please have fewer wormholes? I'm not asking for fewer wormhole systems, but everytime you break the old Sisters probes out, get ready for a nice, mind numbing day of scanning sites... theres always an irritating little wormhole raising it's ugly head and always being the one sig that you say 'Hey, lets see what this is'...

If there is a wormhole sys that's not occupied anymore, I've yet to see it.

Yes... they were great when they were the new kid on the block, but let's be honest... the new has worn off and they are just getting irritating and in the way these days when you're trying to do a little exploration profit for the day.

Seriously... a wormhole in EVERY SINGLE SYSTEM in EVE is a bit of overkill IMO. They are WORMHOLES... and personally everytime I've watched NOVA or the Science Channel, the common opionion is that IF they do exist... odds are, they would not be very common.

Maybe CCP could throw a new dynamic on them. Make them less common. Put a little of the Mystery back into the idea of the elusive wormhole.

One wormhole a day in the actual WH systems instead of constant exits. Place them in explored space randomly... not half a dozen of them in every single system in EVE... Really?

I loved the idea of them, but TBH they have just become an irritation because there are just WAAAAAAAY too many of them.

Just an opinion


learn2scan


not empty quoting
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-08-30 23:31:11 UTC
lay off the drugs.
StoneColdHeart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-30 23:31:33 UTC
Svodola Darkfury wrote:
QT McWhiskers wrote:
What?



I think he's complaining about all the K162s that pop up ALL OVER high-sec. That's why they always appear to always be inhabited btw; they're likely opened from the w-space side.

I found it to be quite annoying myself; at least a separate category would be nice so Plexers don't have to sort through 25 wormholes to find the 1 remaining Guristas plex that already had a Tengu in it that one time in ... what just happened?


Svodola Darkfury.



Exactly.... instead of being what they are supposed to be, new, never before seen, uncharted ways into far off uncharted systems... they were just a way to make the new space a pain in the ass to get in and out of... basically crapshoot, roll of the dice, stargates. whats the point anymore honestly, most of the systems are settled now, get the wormholes out of the way, chart the damn erea, put up stargates, and come up with something new.

again... just an opinion.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-08-30 23:33:42 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
Svodola Darkfury wrote:
QT McWhiskers wrote:
What?



I think he's complaining about all the K162s that pop up ALL OVER high-sec. That's why they always appear to always be inhabited btw; they're likely opened from the w-space side.

I found it to be quite annoying myself; at least a separate category would be nice so Plexers don't have to sort through 25 wormholes to find the 1 remaining Guristas plex that already had a Tengu in it that one time in ... what just happened?


Svodola Darkfury.



Exactly.... instead of being what they are supposed to be, new, never before seen, uncharted ways into far off uncharted systems... they were just a way to make the new space a pain in the ass to get in and out of... basically crapshoot, roll of the dice, stargates. whats the point anymore honestly, most of the systems are settled now, get the wormholes out of the way, chart the damn erea, put up stargates, and come up with something new.

again... just an opinion.


No

All k162s fall into the same band. That band is rarely a worthwhile exploration site. Train up so you can learn which are likely k162 whs and ignore them.
StoneColdHeart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-08-30 23:40:59 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
StoneColdHeart wrote:
Svodola Darkfury wrote:
QT McWhiskers wrote:
What?



I think he's complaining about all the K162s that pop up ALL OVER high-sec. That's why they always appear to always be inhabited btw; they're likely opened from the w-space side.

I found it to be quite annoying myself; at least a separate category would be nice so Plexers don't have to sort through 25 wormholes to find the 1 remaining Guristas plex that already had a Tengu in it that one time in ... what just happened?


Svodola Darkfury.



Exactly.... instead of being what they are supposed to be, new, never before seen, uncharted ways into far off uncharted systems... they were just a way to make the new space a pain in the ass to get in and out of... basically crapshoot, roll of the dice, stargates. whats the point anymore honestly, most of the systems are settled now, get the wormholes out of the way, chart the damn erea, put up stargates, and come up with something new.

again... just an opinion.


No

All k162s fall into the same band. That band is rarely a worthwhile exploration site. Train up so you can learn which are likely k162 whs and ignore them.



My post has nothing whatsoever to do with scanning skills, abilities or anything of the such. I have very good scanning skills, and have done the whole wormhole living, raiding, PvP in them, farming them... there are too many of them. To the best of my understanding when they were released into the game, they were meant to bring an air of unknown into the game... well, guess what... the air has left the room. Wormholes are EVERYWHERE. like i said, they are nothing more than crapshoot stargates.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-08-30 23:45:05 UTC
Well given your take wormhole space is completely off base I'd still say no. We don't need more kspace systems
StoneColdHeart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-08-30 23:54:29 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Well given your take wormhole space is completely off base I'd still say no. We don't need more kspace systems



ok..... I'll dumb this down for the slow people in the crowd.......


The systems are fine. make more, who cares... but my god, make them a little more challenging to get into... and out of.

basically they have turned into Easy Mode null sec settling. The new practice is 'Hey, if you can't hold a charted null sec system, move into a WH sys, build a carrier or two, and its yours. '


If you dont like the null sec exit you just scanned down, wait 5 mins and a hi sec exit will spawn. Easy mode gatecamping for fail pvpers who cant handle not knowing if a bigger fleet is going to warp in on you. I could go on, but hopefully you get the point.

the systems themselves are fine.... make it harder to get in and out. If you want the tons of ISK a WH can generate... then make the players work for it.

Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-08-30 23:56:32 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Well given your take wormhole space is completely off base I'd still say no. We don't need more kspace systems



ok..... I'll dumb this down for the slow people in the crowd.......


The systems are fine. make more, who cares... but my god, make them a little more challenging to get into... and out of.

basically they have turned into Easy Mode null sec settling. The new practice is 'Hey, if you can't hold a charted null sec system, move into a WH sys, build a carrier or two, and its yours. '


If you dont like the null sec exit you just scanned down, wait 5 mins and a hi sec exit will spawn. Easy mode gatecamping for fail pvpers who cant handle not knowing if a bigger fleet is going to warp in on you. I could go on, but hopefully you get the point.

the systems themselves are fine.... make it harder to get in and out. If you want the tons of ISK a WH can generate... then make the players work for it.



NO

Don't take my HS exploring drake targets away from me.

Again i reiterate my lay off the drugs comment, your posts are rife with contradiction.
StoneColdHeart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-08-30 23:57:44 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneColdHeart
Wolvun wrote:
StoneColdHeart wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Well given your take wormhole space is completely off base I'd still say no. We don't need more kspace systems



ok..... I'll dumb this down for the slow people in the crowd.......


The systems are fine. make more, who cares... but my god, make them a little more challenging to get into... and out of.

basically they have turned into Easy Mode null sec settling. The new practice is 'Hey, if you can't hold a charted null sec system, move into a WH sys, build a carrier or two, and its yours. '


If you dont like the null sec exit you just scanned down, wait 5 mins and a hi sec exit will spawn. Easy mode gatecamping for fail pvpers who cant handle not knowing if a bigger fleet is going to warp in on you. I could go on, but hopefully you get the point.

the systems themselves are fine.... make it harder to get in and out. If you want the tons of ISK a WH can generate... then make the players work for it.



NO

Don't take my HS exploring drake targets away from me.


Like i said....... fail pvper that cant camp a stargate.

Again i reiterate my lay off the drugs comment, your posts are rife with contradiction.
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-08-31 00:01:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolvun
Just move back to null and stop trying to change WH space to suit yourself.

Was it coke today? you type like they speak....

EDIT: And what fool wants to sit around all day and camp a stargate. We WH people like scanning down as many chains as we can to find active people and then pouncing when they least expect it. If you can't work out how to do that for yourself you just stay on those stargates mate.
StoneColdHeart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-08-31 00:05:28 UTC
Wolvun wrote:
Just move back to null and stop trying to change WH space to suit yourself.

Was it coke today? you type like they speak....




OMG. im not complaining about the space or the systems.....

im saying there are too many access points to it...

O wait, theres a wormhole in the living room, wait theres another in the dining room, lets go see if theres one in the backyard..... OMG one just poped up in the passenger seat of my car.......

REALLY???

FAIL......FAIL.....FAIL
Wolvun
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-08-31 00:06:49 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
Wolvun wrote:
Just move back to null and stop trying to change WH space to suit yourself.

Was it coke today? you type like they speak....




OMG. im not complaining about the space or the systems.....

im saying there are too many access points to it...

O wait, theres a wormhole in the living room, wait theres another in the dining room, lets go see if theres one in the backyard..... OMG one just poped up in the passenger seat of my car.......

REALLY???

FAIL......FAIL.....FAIL


What your missing is..... WE LIKE IT LIKE THAT. why would we want 1 access point to all of w-space that no one ever finds?
Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-08-31 00:06:52 UTC
StoneColdHeart wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Well given your take wormhole space is completely off base I'd still say no. We don't need more kspace systems



ok..... I'll dumb this down for the slow people in the crowd.......


The systems are fine. make more, who cares... but my god, make them a little more challenging to get into... and out of.

basically they have turned into Easy Mode null sec settling. The new practice is 'Hey, if you can't hold a charted null sec system, move into a WH sys, build a carrier or two, and its yours. '


If you dont like the null sec exit you just scanned down, wait 5 mins and a hi sec exit will spawn. Easy mode gatecamping for fail pvpers who cant handle not knowing if a bigger fleet is going to warp in on you. I could go on, but hopefully you get the point.

the systems themselves are fine.... make it harder to get in and out. If you want the tons of ISK a WH can generate... then make the players work for it.


For how long have you been living in wspace?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-31 00:11:31 UTC
not sure if trolling or just incredibly stupid.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#19 - 2012-08-31 01:02:27 UTC
While I kind of get what your saying and I think its somewhat an unintended side effect, your massively over-exaggerating - our WHs get a direct highsec maybe once a month, around 60% of the time crashing our static doesn't get a WH system with a direct link to highsec - one of my chars has been hanging out in a k-space system down the end of a PVE pipe and I've been scanning the system out of interest most days and not seen a wormhole in it yet - granted I don't need to go around many systems in the area before I can find a WH link tho.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2012-08-31 01:35:38 UTC
While i understand what the OP is saying, there is a very simple rule to follow. If you find a k162 in high sec, realize that it was opened from the other side and that that system is more than likely occupied. To find an unoccupied hole, just scan for it. You can find connections to just about anywhere in space that way. The answer is never "fewer wormholes".

Also, try to keep posts coherent, or I'll have to lock the thread. I've cleaned up a bit, keep it that way please.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

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