EVE General Discussion

After having a lengthy discussion with my wife yesterday we have both come to the same conclusions. There are things I want to do with my life, write some books, get my own company running and actually making us a living, etc. and Eve has become a time sink that is preventing me from doing these things. All my life I have wanted to be my own businessman and run my own company. I even have my own LLC. I do nothing with it. This is unacceptable to me. I always wanted a company, now I have one and have nothing to do with it? This seems supremely stupid for some reason. I think I would rather use my own real corporation to accumulate real assets instead of a fake one to accumulate fake assets from this time forward.

For the record my wife is NOT forcing me to give up Eve, quite the opposite in fact. She does not care if I continue to play or even really how much. I am making this decision for myself.

This decision came last night. I had to move some large items and needed to make a long trip in my Orca. I left my home base and got to where the items were for pick-up after flying manually for almost an hour and a half. Once I docked I realized that I just spent an hour and a half to move fictional items from one place to another and I was only half done! I am not making isk, and I am not even having fun. I am working for no pay at a dead end job with no prospects to better myself. Make no mistake; this "game" is nothing more than a false job.

If I am going to work someone is going to be paying me, not the other way around.

Beyond the reasons above I am also sick of the player base. The vast majority of the players are just jerks or selfish petulant children. One just wants to bully everyone else and the other just wants to whine and cry and throw a tantrum until they get their way. You cannot be left alone to enjoy yourself, or the company of friends, without often being bothered by either type. I realize I need to have more respect for myself and not associate with either type on the Internet just like I would not associate with them in real life. Most of them also seem to be rather stupid, but that is unsurprising considering the vast epidemic of ignorance sweeping the world.

There is a nice majority of wonderful people however, many of whom I will miss, such as those in my own corporation and Akita T. You are the main thing that made this game worth playing. I wish all of you a long and prosperous life.

Eve was already on its second chance with me after Incarna. I left then for three months and the only reason I returned was because I felt Eve deserved a second chance after I heard about Crucible. I like to refer to it as what CCP should have been doing for the last two years. Even so the real-time skill training system with no way to accelerate or augment it by actually playing the game is just asinine. It is a pathetically blatant attempt to just get me to keep paying CCP for the privilege to ultimately do nothing. I have chosen to allow myself to be manipulated in this way for so long because until recently I was actually having fun doing so. There is no longer any such benefit for me so I am getting rid of it just like a bad credit card with no balance and way to many fees.

I have no intention of logging on more than perhaps once or twice just to chat with friends until my subscription runs out and will be giving out nothing to anyone. I spent all these years working to get what I have and for once I can take it with me so do not bother asking for my stuff.

To summarize I am leaving because:

1. I am tired of working a fake job for a fake company for fake pay when I could be working for my own company and making real money.

2. I want to do real world things and I no longer want a distraction from them. Write some books, further my long term goals, **** my hot wife into unconsciousness. Things like that.

3. I am sick of the jerks and the crybabies in no specific order. You know who you are. Again the good people will be missed (Akita T and my corp mates I am looking at you).

4. Real time skill training. I think I can do this myself in the real world without the "privilege" of paying someone else to do so.

5. Eve is not an escape, it is a prison designed to keep your inner potential restrained.

May you all have long lives and never get podded.

EDIT: The original real reason I made this post was to be able to answer my corp members and CCP when they asked why I was leaving. It is easier to answer those questions here and then just send them a link to the topic.

I am aware that Eve is a game that lets you make your own goals and do what you want, that is what initially attracted me to it and specifically my first career as a trader.

I never had an alt, only this one character for the sole point of this being an escape and a hobby, not a second job. It still somehow became that.

After almost five years I have done everything I have even remotely wanted to in Eve and excelled at all of it. It is like Matriarch Prime said; I have simply continued playing long after I was no longer getting any enjoyment from the game. I kept playing to try and recapture that lost fun but I never could.

Another issue was time management, but not in the way you think. I would often just log in to do a small thing, something that would not take more than 15 minutes at most. But that thing would lead to something else to do, and then again to something else. The next thing I know it is hours later and I am wondering what happened and where the time went. Hell, it might not even be to do anything at all but just talk with my alliance mates for a few minutes then we would get invaded or some other bit of drama came up and then once again by the time the dust settled I was wondering where the hours went to. This is how Eve was stealing my time, not directly but indirectly and insidiously.

Obligatory can i have your stuff post.

Whatever floats your boat. GL.

stuff?

You'll be back. You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave.

Oh as to real time training vs. in-game repetition training. In-game repetition is actually more asinine. And in your case it might have lead to hour and a half sessions of jumping the same gate back and forth or something.

In case the OP missed this post.......

Hm, I just watched the episode of south park last night about the queer eye for the straight guy-crab people taking over the world and making men have feelings.



Oh this isn't a thread about random status updates?

tl;dr
Wasting time? Same can be applied to reading loooong "I'm quitting" threads.
But really, to run a business, you need to figure out how to manage time, not go from one extreme to another, ditching stuff along the way. You are just doing the same thing you have done already, and will do it again, until you learn to manage your time. As you balance your time more efficiently, you would find EVE to be more fun than before when you could not manage your time. As well it would not be a time sink as you think of it now, as everyone needs some entertainment, and you will probably just replace this with something else, and probably wind up doing the same thing all over again. So no, no affirmation from me.

I wish you good luck for your future plans in your life.

To be honest, you sound like you played for far to long after the enjoyment left. I see this a lot in MMO players. Its ok to find new interests and hobbies, and for your priorities to change over time. It is important that you realize that just like you actions in the game were completely driven by you own choices, so are your action in real life. EvE isn't the boogie man here. You just let your own priorities get out whack for too long, and the realization has made you bitter.

I hope that one day that you come to appreciate the enjoyment you got out of the game, the fun you had and the relationships that you formed, as a result of being a part of this community. Focus on those things and try not to be so hard on yourself. We all have our coulda/shoulda moments, but it rarely productive beyond helping guide our future decisions. It is important to also know why you "didn't" leave, and try to bring thay experience to your new endevours so you can express you passions and dreams onward to your goal.

Good luck to you, and I wish you best.