Assembly Hall

In terms of isk and LP payout. Frigate only areas should pay out much better. They should also be harder to take. You can spend years of training just frigates. The skill tree goes deep and there are lots of ships. But even when your frigate costs you 50 million isk, there is no where to risk it to gain 10 million isk. you can only gaint 200,000 isk.

While the large and medium size points will always be worth more isk, I feel like LP payout and control points should be the same for small sites and large sites. Just because something is small and can only be hit by small ships doesn't means it's not super important to the war effort. This is a scifi.

1st make it so small medium and large sites pay out the same LP and control points over the system.

Now create a new factor, site importance. There are as follows. 10 min timer green, 15 min timer yellow, 20min timer green. Payout is now discounted from what ships are allowed into the site and are instead based on how hard the site is and how long it takes to capture. The size of the ship only effects the isk payout, not the LP or control points, and the importance level of the site acts as a isk payout multiplier.

The whole thing uses the incursion system for spiting rewards to make blobbing in FW pvp unproductive. Bringing more than 10 frigates to a site starts to cut everyone's payout in half, you won't see gangs of 30 frigates running sites. Creating an environment for small gang warfare.

Same with large sites, no one will bring 90 ships into a site when doing so would lower each players payout to 100isk. Love the system ccp created for that it's jst in the wrong place hanging out in a PvE expansion, when it should be applied to a PvP part of the game.

So yeah, please, hopefully you guys can ses the benefit of what I'm asking for here? many players have trained into frigates for years, in a frigate only mission that is just as hard to clear as a batleship site, the rewards should be the same in terms of the lp reward for putting yourself in a possible pvp situation. the isk payout would be lower because your risking like isk.

The problem with LP payouts, especially for frigate-sized plexes, are that they are almost always farmed by gunless, speedtanked frigates. Since they are speedtanked, there is no real chance that the NPCs will stop them, and by running without any weapons, it's no surprise that they immediately warp off the moment another player jumps in. No risk, and, in the case of the Minmatar (at the moment, but it could be any faction that continuously stays at T5), at least four times the reward. That just isn't very EVE. It's more of an ISK printer, than a warfare mechanic.

Also, there is no point to defending a system. It's a waste of time. Granted, the idea (I assume) was that without defensive benefits, there would be a more dynamic battlespace. But in reality... Well, look at how the Amarr have fared over the summer, even in spite of multiple Nullsec alliances joining in to help.

~Akai

or you could require npc ship kills to finish a site.