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No something like genolution implants should emerge for that purpose but having +5's as implant secondary effect or 3's but compensated with +2 across the board is just silly.

You made a choice you have clones...deal with it.

A few days ago I was scouting lo-sec with an alt so I could run a freighter through. For this scouting I was just using a pod as I could not be bothered going to get a SB. After I finished scouting I was too lazy to change into a shuttle as I was concentrating on the freighter needless to say while the Alt was tooling back to base through high his pod got destroyed. Subsequently I got this mail.



Now has this person been whining about the loss of easy kills to do with barges and come to the forums creating a threadnaught filled with tears? NO

His has decided to make himself happy by killing peoples pods. He does not get isk from this actually he loses isk for his podding of people but he is having fun and collecting tears on the way.

Removing learning implants would just be a way of making Hi-sec even safer and making the risk averse happier as they would gain the benefits with 0 risk.

Oh and before anyone says something stupid of course I had no implants on my alt. I had made good use of my JC days before. So planning won again.

10-12 days

Training Cybernetics V (with the appropriate +4s plugged in) to be able to use +5s takes 10 days.

So total gain over a 24-month period from using +5s instead of +4s is about 10-12 days. AN ABSOLUTE MUST, and I will now stop having fun in the game, and stay docked up so I can enjoy this massive advantage.


(just FWIW, I'm at a point in the game where I could afford to lose +5s everyday, but wasting that ISK is about as useful as officer-fitting an Iteron III)

Not sure if straight-up removing them would be the solution, perhaps just changing +4 and +5 implants to +3 in addition to some other benefit (like the current pirate implants). Perhaps a different set for each of the factions.

I think the main problem is that learning implants promote an attitude of staying in high-sec for just one more day. And then one more etc. Because there's always this single extra skill that would be of great benefit, and staying safe to preserve your implants means a few days/hours less to train. But after that there's one more skill that would train just a little bit faster, and most pilots don't really have the money to replace +5s on a regular basis without focussing purely on isk/hr regardless of actual fun.

Implants reward avoiding risk. Whilst, from what I hear, the opposite is what is aimed for. Risky endeavours are what should be rewarded.

Training Learning V, training [Adv Learning Skill] V was "An Absolute Must" in the same way (and gave roughly the same benefit), and that pressure to waste time/effort on something that doesn't give in-game advantages is a big reason that CCP listed for removing them.

Is that the let's all do the AFK approach-POS Huddle scenario?

So o.o guys dnt like useing +5s coz of bubbles tough sh1t its were they choose to live to try remove somthing somthing becouse o.o players afraid of loseing is just stupid

i live losec cant use bubbles do us losec guys av a case for removing bubbles?

What about all the billions isk ppl have tied up in +5s traders and users alike


nobodys stoping null sec guys useing implants if they choose not to becouse risk thats up to them but please dnt cry about it like a ***

Try sucking my left nut like i give a fu#k wot some smart ar5e thinks my typeing lol

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Because people who don't risk their implants still get the SP. That's exactly the point.