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Preventing grand theft Wormholes
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Easy Toto
Hunky-Dory
Brotherhood of Spacers
#1 - 2012-08-30 07:04:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Easy Toto
so i been on the forums and on google. looking for a great topic on this
How to prevent theft in your WH but all i can find is Thefts of WHs
i do know the basics look at corp history Full api but this is not full
proof any one can pass by this screening..is there a better way to to
make use of the POS in the wormhole to prevent this ?
share your tips and hints here.. Dont go off topic
any ideas Tips and hints are welcome here
how do you get new members ?
how do you protect your asst from those new members ?
how do you protect your Wh from those new members ?



ill have my eyes glue to this thread

move to wormhole thread plz
Easy Toto
Hunky-Dory
Brotherhood of Spacers
#2 - 2012-08-30 07:06:38 UTC
Sry
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-30 07:19:04 UTC
In short.. research and trust. You could always deny them access to to Ship Hanger and only allow limited access to corp hangers.

But yeah... in the end, it all comes down to trust.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-30 10:13:13 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
In short.. research and trust. You could always deny them access to to Ship Hanger and only allow limited access to corp hangers.

But yeah... in the end, it all comes down to trust.

Or let everyone in the WH have access to one Hangar-division, that you only store replacable stuff in (T1 Frigates and Destroyers, maybe T1 modules for them, and ammo). Keep the valuable stuff to yourself.

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#5 - 2012-08-30 11:04:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalel Nimrott
Put a pos for new players with its own password. Seven players per pos, each with its own tab. If they steal, bash pos with everyone inside and kick them out. Repeat procedement

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-08-30 13:41:05 UTC
Director roles for everyone!

Terrible Poster Runner-up 2014
Albina White
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-08-30 16:47:50 UTC
Is this a poem?

I like it.

I like it very much.
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#8 - 2012-08-30 18:46:43 UTC
Once upon a time there lived a man in a wormhole.
It was his wormhole, and no one else, for whom could he trust?
Others passed by, begging to share this wondrous space, and he refused in fear.
But, as time tends to do, his heart warmed to their pleas, and he opened up his space.
It was slow, at first, only a few probed sites with a singular POS.
This was so he could build trust with them, learn that they were honest in their ways.
Slowly, the more trustworthy remained and gained further access.
Those who were shady took a few ships, but left never to return.
Then, the man in his wormhole finally warmed to the select few around him and shared with them everything.
All his wealth.
All his ships.
All his POS's.

They stabbed him in the back and took everything, leaving him alone in a dark, empty wormhole.


This is EVE. Trust no one.
Backfyre
Hohmann Transfer
#9 - 2012-08-30 19:15:29 UTC
First, you cannot prevent all theft. This is Eve.

Under the structures tab in POS management, you can assign role-based access rights to structures like ship maintenance arrays. Have newbies store ships in one set to "corp" access. For people you trust, you can hand out fuel technician and configure starbase roles and assign those roles as criteria to access modules. Thus, you can layer security. With those more advanced roles, however, a thief could start unanchoring and stealing POS modules. It all gets back to trust and having a good screening process for new members.

For the tabs in the corp hangar array, not a lot you can do especially since you cannot open containers while they are in the array. Best you can do is assign tiers of trust and set access to hangars (other) to designated titles. That way, you can limit theft by new members to items stored in the general tab. As you trust them more, give access to other tabs. That way people can also store their gear in the more secure locations.

Finally, you can set up multiple POS and further control access through shield passwords.

The security controls for Eve corporations are really lame. I suspect that is intended design by CCP to promote theft as an intended facet of game play. One has to admit that the "dark side" aspect of Eve is part of what makes the game unique and fun.

In the end, the operative word is "game".
Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#10 - 2012-08-30 20:47:34 UTC
Magic.

I used to have a clever sig but I lost it.
Easy Toto
Hunky-Dory
Brotherhood of Spacers
#11 - 2012-08-30 20:58:06 UTC
Backfyre wrote:
First, you cannot prevent all theft. This is Eve.

Under the structures tab in POS management, you can assign role-based access rights to structures like ship maintenance arrays. Have newbies store ships in one set to "corp" access. For people you trust, you can hand out fuel technician and configure starbase roles and assign those roles as criteria to access modules. Thus, you can layer security. With those more advanced roles, however, a thief could start unanchoring and stealing POS modules. It all gets back to trust and having a good screening process for new members.

For the tabs in the corp hangar array, not a lot you can do especially since you cannot open containers while they are in the array. Best you can do is assign tiers of trust and set access to hangars (other) to designated titles. That way, you can limit theft by new members to items stored in the general tab. As you trust them more, give access to other tabs. That way people can also store their gear in the more secure locations.

Finally, you can set up multiple POS and further control access through shield passwords.

The security controls for Eve corporations are really lame. I suspect that is intended design by CCP to promote theft as an intended facet of game play. One has to admit that the "dark side" aspect of Eve is part of what makes the game unique and fun.

In the end, the operative word is "game".


nice job well i guess then the only way to go is with a POS Then
Easy Toto
Hunky-Dory
Brotherhood of Spacers
#12 - 2012-08-30 20:58:33 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Once upon a time there lived a man in a wormhole.
It was his wormhole, and no one else, for whom could he trust?
Others passed by, begging to share this wondrous space, and he refused in fear.
But, as time tends to do, his heart warmed to their pleas, and he opened up his space.
It was slow, at first, only a few probed sites with a singular POS.
This was so he could build trust with them, learn that they were honest in their ways.
Slowly, the more trustworthy remained and gained further access.
Those who were shady took a few ships, but left never to return.
Then, the man in his wormhole finally warmed to the select few around him and shared with them everything.
All his wealth.
All his ships.
All his POS's.

They stabbed him in the back and took everything, leaving him alone in a dark, empty wormhole.


This is EVE. Trust no one.


This is my new BIO
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#13 - 2012-08-30 21:00:32 UTC
Easy Toto wrote:
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Once upon a time there lived a man in a wormhole.
It was his wormhole, and no one else, for whom could he trust?
Others passed by, begging to share this wondrous space, and he refused in fear.
But, as time tends to do, his heart warmed to their pleas, and he opened up his space.
It was slow, at first, only a few probed sites with a singular POS.
This was so he could build trust with them, learn that they were honest in their ways.
Slowly, the more trustworthy remained and gained further access.
Those who were shady took a few ships, but left never to return.
Then, the man in his wormhole finally warmed to the select few around him and shared with them everything.
All his wealth.
All his ships.
All his POS's.

They stabbed him in the back and took everything, leaving him alone in a dark, empty wormhole.


This is EVE. Trust no one.


This is my new BIO


Glad you like it. Big smile
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#14 - 2012-08-30 21:54:19 UTC
Also in my bio as soon as I arrive home.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#15 - 2012-08-31 00:22:38 UTC
Simple: give no one roles that's the only way

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#16 - 2012-08-31 14:27:03 UTC

Brain reading x-ray beams is the safest bet.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Travis Uchonela
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-08-31 17:57:47 UTC
CorInaXeraL wrote:
Once upon a time there lived a man in a wormhole.
It was his wormhole, and no one else, for whom could he trust?
Others passed by, begging to share this wondrous space, and he refused in fear.
But, as time tends to do, his heart warmed to their pleas, and he opened up his space.
It was slow, at first, only a few probed sites with a singular POS.
This was so he could build trust with them, learn that they were honest in their ways.
Slowly, the more trustworthy remained and gained further access.
Those who were shady took a few ships, but left never to return.
Then, the man in his wormhole finally warmed to the select few around him and shared with them everything.
All his wealth.
All his ships.
All his POS's.

They stabbed him in the back and took everything, leaving him alone in a dark, empty wormhole.


This is EVE. Trust no one.


Slow clap.
THEHOODITDOESNOTHING
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-31 18:59:46 UTC
Form an alliance. Everyone has his own corp or his own buddies in his corp. Every corp has its own POS.
Zinn Irate
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-09-02 15:04:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Zinn Irate
CorInaXeraL wrote:

Then, the man in his wormhole finally warmed to the select few around him and shared with them everything.
All his wealth.
All his ships.
All his POS's.

They stabbed him in the back and took everything, leaving him alone in a dark, empty wormhole.


This is EVE. Trust no one.


I think the wormhole in this poem is a metaphor for the alienation and emptiness of postmodern life.
Mal Ishos
Steecey's Industries
#20 - 2012-09-02 15:17:51 UTC
Trust nobody.
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