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Which damage type is most effective against Guristas?
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#1 - 2012-08-29 09:55:58 UTC
Which missiles should I use in a ship with no bonuses to damage types?

Oh god.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#2 - 2012-08-29 10:01:10 UTC
scourge
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#3 - 2012-08-29 10:02:54 UTC
So if I stick to EM/Scourge, I should be covered for all missions, right?

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Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#4 - 2012-08-29 10:19:35 UTC
I would stick with EM and / or kinetic, unless you need Explosive and / or Thermic.

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nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#5 - 2012-08-29 10:20:06 UTC
why you want em?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#6 - 2012-08-29 10:22:30 UTC
Mainly Blood Raiders and Guristas, occasionally Angels and Sansha.

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Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
#7 - 2012-08-29 10:27:49 UTC
EM for Bloods and Sansha, kinetic for Guristas, explosive for angels, simple.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#8 - 2012-08-29 10:29:47 UTC
wasn't sure why you're asking about EM in topic about gurista :)
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#9 - 2012-08-29 10:31:00 UTC
Thanks guys.

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Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-08-29 11:00:41 UTC
I'm guessing you're newly sitting in a Drake, in which case because of the kinetic bonus Mjolnir and Scourge are good enough for you (I think they're called Mjolnir now, whatever - the EM ones).

Once you get into a Raven/CNR you will want missiles of each damage type to swap according to the mission you're running.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#11 - 2012-08-29 11:14:18 UTC
Not so much. I'm preparing to fly SNI in 2-3 days which gives me more freedom of choice with damage types which is why I'm asking. In a Drake I'd just use Scourge on everything and on the rare occasions Scourge doesn't work, I'd switch to Mjolinir. In the Scorpion it seems I'll pretty much be using the same strategy.

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Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-08-29 12:21:39 UTC
Yeah, the Guristas' primary resistance hole is kinetic. They also have some weakness to thermal damage, so Gallente drones (with their increased damage multipliers) will work well, perhaps even better than Caldari drones.

I suppose the rule of thumb for missiles would be Scourge for Guristas and Serpentis, Nova for Angels, Mjolnir for Blood Raiders and Sansha. There's an EVE University reference chart here: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC_Damage_Types

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Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-08-29 12:22:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ifly Uwalk
SNI doesn't get a damage type bonus iirc so you'd be better off using missiles according to the mission you're running.

Edit: beaten by Marc Callan.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#14 - 2012-08-29 12:24:13 UTC
Thanks again.

Oh god.
Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#15 - 2012-08-29 13:10:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Nestara Aldent
Easy rule for all NPC rats, they dont tank the damage they deal themselves, e:

blood/sanshas/amarr empire : deal primarily em and thermal, cant tank em and thermal

or

angel cartel/minmatar : deal primarily explosive, then kinetic (with little em), and tank explosive the least, then kinetic.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#16 - 2012-08-29 13:40:07 UTC
as a mission runner myself I usually carry mission specific missles however there are many times I carry atleast 1000 of each damage types and FoF scourge for good measure. in the mission Arnie scarlet you end up carrying atleast the way I just wrote cause you'll use most of all types. SNI great choice keeps you safer.
Zaraz Zaraz
Zontik Paraphernalia Inc
#17 - 2012-08-29 13:48:40 UTC
Nestara Aldent wrote:
Easy rule for all NPC rats, they dont tank the damage they deal themselves, e:

blood/sanshas/amarr empire : deal primarily em and thermal, cant tank em and thermal

or

angel cartel/minmatar : deal primarily explosive, then kinetic (with little em), and tank explosive the least, then kinetic.


Except rogue drones.
Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#18 - 2012-08-29 14:07:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Nestara Aldent
Zaraz Zaraz wrote:
Nestara Aldent wrote:
Easy rule for all NPC rats, they dont tank the damage they deal themselves, e:

blood/sanshas/amarr empire : deal primarily em and thermal, cant tank em and thermal

or

angel cartel/minmatar : deal primarily explosive, then kinetic (with little em), and tank explosive the least, then kinetic.


Except rogue drones.


True!
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#19 - 2012-08-29 16:51:43 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
Yeah, the Guristas' primary resistance hole is kinetic. They also have some weakness to thermal damage, so Gallente drones (with their increased damage multipliers) will work well, perhaps even better than Caldari drones.


Since you brought it up, no. For drones you want Caldari for Guristas and Serpentis, Gallente for Blood Raiders, Sansha, Rogue Drones, mercenaries, and elite Angel frigs, and Minmatar for other Angels.

Marc Callan wrote:
I suppose the rule of thumb for missiles would be Scourge for Guristas and Serpentis, Nova for Angels, Mjolnir for Blood Raiders and Sansha. There's an EVE University reference chart here: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/NPC_Damage_Types


This. Plus thermal (Inferno now?) for mercenaries.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-08-30 11:53:36 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Marc Callan wrote:
Yeah, the Guristas' primary resistance hole is kinetic. They also have some weakness to thermal damage, so Gallente drones (with their increased damage multipliers) will work well, perhaps even better than Caldari drones.


Since you brought it up, no. For drones you want Caldari for Guristas and Serpentis, Gallente for Blood Raiders, Sansha, Rogue Drones, mercenaries, and elite Angel frigs, and Minmatar for other Angels.


Huh. I'll have to pick up some Hornet II's and Vespa II's and check that out; I honestly thought that the Gallente drones' damage multipliers offset the resistance difference, given that they seem to do a good job for me when it comes to shredding Gurista rats. (I know for a fact that for projectiles, like 1400 artillery, Phased Plasma's thermal damage packs more of a punch against Guristas per bullet than Titanium Sabot's kinetic damage, but that's probably because Plasma's a shorter-range round.)

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
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