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I think CCP should buff missiles.
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#21 - 2012-08-28 12:53:31 UTC
Nerf minmatar bring alpha to lazors,moar dpz to blastors and more speed with 8 missile slots to loldary...problem fixed.

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stoicfaux
#22 - 2012-08-28 13:03:06 UTC
Raven: 99.3 million tons, has 6 launchers.
Manticore stealth bomber: 1.5 million tons, has 3 launchers.

99.3 / 1.5 = 66.2. One Raven has the mass of 66 Manticores.

Any reason why we can't just duct tape a bunch of stealth bombers to our battleships?

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-08-28 13:36:29 UTC
fairly easy 'buff' would be to double their velocity and half their flight time

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#24 - 2012-08-28 13:40:30 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Raven: 99.3 million tons, has 6 launchers.
Manticore stealth bomber: 1.5 million tons, has 3 launchers.

99.3 / 1.5 = 66.2. One Raven has the mass of 66 Manticores.

Any reason why we can't just duct tape a bunch of stealth bombers to our battleships?



I like how this guy thinks.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-08-28 13:44:51 UTC
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Raven: 99.3 million tons, has 6 launchers.
Manticore stealth bomber: 1.5 million tons, has 3 launchers.

99.3 / 1.5 = 66.2. One Raven has the mass of 66 Manticores.

Any reason why we can't just duct tape a bunch of stealth bombers to our battleships?



I like how this guy thinks.


surely they are small enough to fit one on each launcher?

A raven with 6 manticores equipped in the highs

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-28 13:48:16 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Raven: 99.3 million tons, has 6 launchers.
Manticore stealth bomber: 1.5 million tons, has 3 launchers.

99.3 / 1.5 = 66.2. One Raven has the mass of 66 Manticores.

Any reason why we can't just duct tape a bunch of stealth bombers to our battleships?



I like how this guy thinks.


surely they are small enough to fit one on each launcher?

A raven with 6 manticores equipped in the highs


As long as I can slap a few apocs, megathrons and rokhs together to make a super mega death ray then we're all gravy... baby...
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-08-28 13:59:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
Kyoko Yamakawa wrote:
Missiles now are too weak. too many factors can affect missile damages.
I put many skill points on missiles. is that worth?


yeah and ccp wanted to make a turret disrupter effect missiles too, that was a fail idea that i hope never makes it in.

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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2012-08-28 14:46:12 UTC
I've been trying to get my fellow CFC members to go to rehab over their drake addictions. You, OP, would ruin all that I have worked for and further their addiction to this abomination of a space ferrying vessel.

FC, what do?
Warpshade
Warped Industries
#29 - 2012-08-28 14:59:57 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Raven: 99.3 million tons, has 6 launchers.
Manticore stealth bomber: 1.5 million tons, has 3 launchers.

99.3 / 1.5 = 66.2. One Raven has the mass of 66 Manticores.

Any reason why we can't just duct tape a bunch of stealth bombers to our battleships?



Now if the Caldari could just learn from the Minmatar, and apply some of that ductape theory! They could tape 2 StealthBombers to a procurer for the ultimate Missile boat!
Jim Era
#30 - 2012-08-28 15:05:11 UTC
I am being forced to train a drake :/
I dun want to...missiles aren't fun.

Wat™
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#31 - 2012-08-28 15:13:30 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Raven: 99.3 million tons, has 6 launchers.
Manticore stealth bomber: 1.5 million tons, has 3 launchers.

99.3 / 1.5 = 66.2. One Raven has the mass of 66 Manticores.

Any reason why we can't just duct tape a bunch of stealth bombers to our battleships?



I like how this guy thinks.


surely they are small enough to fit one on each launcher?

A raven with 6 manticores equipped in the highs


18 torp volleys, 6 bombs at one time, and think how many free e-war midslots you'd have... I'd train for that Raven :)

We want Manticore Launchers!

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Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#32 - 2012-08-28 15:46:12 UTC
I say we just nerf everything to the ground and start eve all over. Biomass everything. Evepocalypse, we should do it on December 25, 2012.

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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2012-08-28 15:51:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Defenders are one type of missile that could probably do with a buff.

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Tutsunucann
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-08-28 17:03:47 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Raven: 99.3 million tons, has 6 launchers.
Manticore stealth bomber: 1.5 million tons, has 3 launchers.

99.3 / 1.5 = 66.2. One Raven has the mass of 66 Manticores.

Any reason why we can't just duct tape a bunch of stealth bombers to our battleships?



I like how this guy thinks.


surely they are small enough to fit one on each launcher?

A raven with 6 manticores equipped in the highs


18 torp volleys, 6 bombs at one time, and think how many free e-war midslots you'd have... I'd train for that Raven :)

We want Manticore Launchers!



That's no Raven... that's the Jericho.
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-08-28 20:37:57 UTC
You want fun?

Bring back the snowballs !! \o/ \o/

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#36 - 2012-08-28 20:47:49 UTC
CCP should buff rock, paper is too OP, scissors is fine.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#37 - 2012-08-28 20:57:44 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Defenders are one type of missile that could probably do with a buff.



Defenders should be buffed so they target all enemy missles not just he ones that target you.
So if peeps in your fleet or corp fire missles they are unaffected but all others are targeted... I got images in my mind of Defender Tengus countering Goon Drake blobs Idea
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#38 - 2012-08-28 22:14:55 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Orzo Torasson wrote:
I completely agree with the OP. I don't think this game has nearly enough people flying nothing but Drakes.


It depresses me that the vast majority of new players I talk to have already set their Drake skill plan. It depresses me even more when people think it's the be all and end all of pvp.


GL telling Goons it isn't.

DarthNefarius wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Defenders are one type of missile that could probably do with a buff.



Defenders should be buffed so they target all enemy missles not just he ones that target you.
So if peeps in your fleet or corp fire missles they are unaffected but all others are targeted... I got images in my mind of Defender Tengus countering Goon Drake blobs Idea


I endorse this message.

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Methesda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-08-28 22:19:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Methesda
Recoil IV wrote:
missiles do need buff.especialy light missile.cruise missiles and torpodes.


Don't agree. As has been said, the problem isn't missles so much as missle ships.

I mean, if I say 'flycatcher' most people won't even know wtf I'm talking about.

EDIT: although, I do think some mixed damage missiles would make things more interesting.

EDIT 2: also, Drake is fine. If does it's job perfectly. It's popular, because it's *right*... if it wasn't a drake, some other ship would be at the top of the pile. People like to copy.

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Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-08-28 23:31:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
M1k3y Koontz wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Orzo Torasson wrote:
I completely agree with the OP. I don't think this game has nearly enough people flying nothing but Drakes.


It depresses me that the vast majority of new players I talk to have already set their Drake skill plan. It depresses me even more when people think it's the be all and end all of pvp.


GL telling Goons it isn't.


The scales are different. They work pretty damn well in (fairly) disposable 250 man fleets but it's frustrating to watch players try to hamfist it into every form of fleet imaginable. I remember a corp mate of mine (bless him) was asked to bring dps to a small gang once and guess what he brought? I think of many things when it comes to drakes but I definitely dont think of dps.
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