Jita Park Speakers Corner

Bottom line - until Incarna actually allows you to DO something in the game, until it has some kind of actual gameplay associated with being a spaceship pilot, it's useless and pointless. I'd love to see it have some meaning but CCP doesn't seem to know what to do with it at the moment.

Hello
Dust 514 related question
-Does keymapping is planned
-and if yes when it will be available ?

Regards

A USAF report on the weapon system concept nicknamed "rods from god" - essentially dropping a tungsten rod the size of a telephone pole from orbit - concluded that a rod .3m in diameter and 6.1m in length made of tungsten would impact at mach 10 (about 3400m/s assuming Earth's atmosphere at sea level...Mach number depends on atmospheric characteristics and altitude, you see) with energy equivalent to about 11.5 tons of TNT.

Of course, our 3500mm projectile is much larger and thus has much greater mass; a mere .3m is closer to the 280mm arty you fit on a frigate or destroyer. Conservatively assuming a length of 14m (a mere 4x caliber, as opposed to the over 20x of the rods from god example), we get a mass of roughly 2.35 million kilos, over 320 times the mass of the tungsten rod in the above example. Plug that into the kinetic energy equation (KE = 1/2*m*v^2) and we're looking at about 1.2*10^13 joules upon impact, which comes out to a little shy of three kilotons, or a little less than one fifth the size of the 16kt "Little Boy" dropped on Hiroshima in WWII. But don't let me lead you to think that the damage would be minimal from that statement. Based on this calculator with a 90 degree impact angle and assuming a target of dense rock, we'd get a crater anywhere from 70 to 190 meters across, depending on how you read those results. And of course, the penetrative capabilities of such a projectile are not to be underestimated - between the outright penetration and the localized groundquakes, even deeply buried bunkers would be at risk. Anything around the point of impact on the surface would be pretty much obliterated, of course.

And of course, we must not forget that each gun fires four of these.


Oh yeah. Just in case we're thinking of deriding destroyer based bombardment, that 280mm shell still apparently digs a crater 25m or so across, so it's not exactly a slouch on its own right.


e: The conclusion to draw from this post is that even the destroyer bombardments we have right now are probably not physically accurate. Annihilating the entire map a DUST battle is taking place (thereby killing everyone involved on both sides) on probably sounds fun for us, but it wouldn't make for very good gameplay on the ground...

My CSM candidate!

Well... Imagine this:

The ground bases have some orbital damage dumpers/supressors, that reduces the damage of the orbital strike removing it's energy, reducing the damage to the point we see now. (This would make possible the insertion of bigger orbital weapon class. and stronger dampeners)

Depending on the game mode, it would be interesting to destroy some structures on the planet, so the mercenary role would be to infiltrate, and jam the orbital damage damper/supressors, increasing the damage category of the orbital weapon, and then call an orbital strike on the target facility. (That could annihilate everything or the structure... finishing the battle)

But off course, bigger and stronger facilities would need more Jam and effort from the dusties and/or bigger guns above...

For example, that ground-Space doomsday device that we can see on the first dust cinematic, it would probably need a dreadnought and allot of effort from the dusties to take down. they would need first to jam some of the orbital attack dumpers to allow some sort of orbital suport... and then they would need to progressively kill completely the damp system and gather enough tatical points to allow the dreadnought to hit it with full force.

Also, imagine that you are sending some dusties to a planet to capture it...you have 2 reasons to send the dusties... to lower the defenses so you can nuke it, or to capture and have the resurces and facilities ... off course you can keep a dreadnought and a destroyer in orbit.... using the small ship to give orbital suport, and using the dread to annihilate everything if something goes wrong and you make a "change of plans" and nuke everything... but knowing that you will lose some assets...

so there should be a intensity value for the orbital strikes from 0 to X, and every damper reduces some points from it or a % of it:

So on a full dampned planet, a frigate shooting would do no harm, but a dread shooting would look like a frigate.... in the other hand... a frigate shooting on a unprotected planet would wipe most part of the map while a dread would end the match... All would depend on the objectives...

SO, to me is a yes, there should be a way to nuke the game like the MOAB of Call of dutty... It put some nice level of fredom of tactics that would increase the interaction fun level.

Yep, I'm aware of the report you are referring to and several others that discuss just kinetic energy of impacts. Hell, you don't even need a warhead. Regardless, you deserve a giant nerd hug for spelling it all out. >3