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Intelligent alien life in EVE.

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stoicfaux
#21 - 2012-08-26 18:05:53 UTC
Mineral Asteroids. They respawn so they must be Life. Given how many asteroid-creatures have been mined to death by humans, then by the theory of natural selection, some members of the asteroid-creatures are highly likely to have increased their survival instinct (i.e. become smarter.) Ergo, intelligent alien life.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#22 - 2012-08-26 21:54:03 UTC
Virgil Travis wrote:
Depends on your definition of intelligent, I was going to mention NickyYo but that's probably something of a grey area.


It is the lack of 'grey matter' that is troublesomeSmile

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Skorpynekomimi
#23 - 2012-08-26 22:33:41 UTC
Oh, there's intelligent alien life, all right. In fact, I just heard from one of the crew of my Orca that the vent-spiders had declared the ore hold as their sovereign territory, and the mould in the crew's showers is apparently learning to communicate with bioluminescence.
But then, I think he's just unused to minmatar ship-keeping. And that the crew of the industrial I keep stashed in the ship maintenance bay had been sharing the hooch with him.

And, frankly, I think that the 'space vermin' the gallente crew keep ranting about is just mutated from being too near the reactors. Damn gallente and their airs and graces. One even had the gall to complain to me, personally, about the loadmaster of the spare industrial sleeping in the breakroom in his underwear.

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Sitreba Oonchevkii
#24 - 2012-08-26 22:37:12 UTC
one of the things i really love about eve lore is that it seems more realistic then other sci fi. It has no humanoid, english speaking aliens, no ridiculous "alliance" between humans and aliens, and no cheesy "little green men". it takes place in a fathomable and (somewhat) realistic future.

Blod-red skies, strange beings, and the number 514, often written in blood.
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-08-26 22:52:08 UTC
I was under the impression that Sansha were Aliens

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-08-26 23:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
Lord Arakkis wrote:
I was under the impression that Sansha were Aliens


Just cannibalistic and sadistic cyborgs.

More or less.

Sitreba Oonchevkii wrote:
one of the things i really love about eve lore is that it seems more realistic then other sci fi. It has no humanoid, english speaking aliens, no ridiculous "alliance" between humans and aliens, and no cheesy "little green men". it takes place in a fathomable and (somewhat) realistic future.


How is it realistic when in fact there is no proof whatsoever that there isn't intelligent life out there? To be frank, I find that Sci-fi universes that does have alien life in it tend to be a lot deeper and interesting than those that doesn't.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#27 - 2012-08-26 23:09:02 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
ISD TYPE40 wrote:

As for Aliens in EVE, as far as we know there are none.


That's disappointing and sad.

Considering the greatness of the universe, I'm of the belief that it would be unfathomable that we're all alone here.


Or maybe the universe is in fact so big that it would just take that much longer to run across another form of intelligent life. The size of the universe may in fact be working against are likelyhood to encountering said life rather than for it.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#28 - 2012-08-26 23:23:50 UTC
Despite how many stars are in the cluster, remember the entire eve universe is only a few hundred lightyears across That's very, very small in astronomical terms.

Also, take a look out your ship's window. The entire cluster is in the middle of a series of nebula. Nebulas are formed during supernovas, which then spawn a new generation of stars. Our sun came out of one 5 billion years ago, and it's nowhere to be seen. The fact that these stars are still there probably means they formed relatively recently (the unscientific "attributes" notwithstanding). It could simply be that intelligent life has not yet arisen in this part of the galaxy. Maybe "slaver hounds" are about as complex as life was able to get before humans came blundering in and wrecked the place.

Now, that's not to say as the eve universe continuously expands (w-space is about 1,000 lightyears East of the main cluster, IIRC) we won't run into something...

But it seems reasonable to expect a newly-formed stellar cluster is devoid of complex life. Likely most temperate planets are still in the early plant/fish stages.

(Fake edit: Does that mean the "eve gate" might be the left-over rement of the star that created the Genesis/Amarr regions nebulas? Chronicle writers, commence!)
stoicfaux
#29 - 2012-08-26 23:49:31 UTC
There's also the trouble of Age. Imagine there were two Earths in a galaxy that developed at the same rate. The first is our human dominated Earth, the other Earth is a dinosaur Earth which didn't experience the dinosaur extinction.

Humans are ~2 million years old. The dinosaurs were wiped out ~65 million years ago. Would you really want to encounter a dinosaur race that is 63 million years older than humanity?

In other words, if we were to encounter another intelligent species, it would be highly likely that one of the species would be much, much, much, ..., much older than the other species with all the implications thereof.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#30 - 2012-08-27 03:47:29 UTC
IM actually suprised that none developing Ai has talked to CCP. CCP has perfect test platform for it. Most ruthless and goal driven players seen anywhere in MMO scene... So ruthless and driven in fact that we forced CCP to change is bad ways to better. P

Would be interesting to see AI that could evolve over time, sort of digital dna evolution or something. So it would adapt over time, it would not be weak to specific type of damage for ever, etc... Would learn to use new type of ships and weapons, etc... Like players do...

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-08-27 07:47:21 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
ISD TYPE40 wrote:

As for Aliens in EVE, as far as we know there are none.


That's disappointing and sad.

Considering the greatness of the universe, I'm of the belief that it would be unfathomable that we're all alone here.


But New Eden is only a tiny tiny tiny portion of the universe.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#32 - 2012-08-27 08:01:39 UTC
Anya Ohaya wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
ISD TYPE40 wrote:

As for Aliens in EVE, as far as we know there are none.


That's disappointing and sad.

Considering the greatness of the universe, I'm of the belief that it would be unfathomable that we're all alone here.


But New Eden is only a tiny tiny tiny portion of the universe.


Not forgetting the universe is infinite.

This space for rent.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#33 - 2012-08-27 08:19:38 UTC
You sure about that?

Oh god.
Capri Sern
The Stand Alone Complex
#34 - 2012-08-27 08:20:20 UTC
Any species smart enough to be classified as intelligent alien life probably took one look at humans and ran very quickly in the opposite direction.
LilRemmy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-08-27 08:21:28 UTC
Capri Sern wrote:
Any species smart enough to be classified as intelligent alien life probably took one look at humans and ran very quickly in the opposite direction.



Their loss.
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2012-08-27 08:25:12 UTC
I remember Goons once being referred to as "from beyond the edge of EVE" due to their combat mentality...

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Anslo
Scope Works
#37 - 2012-08-27 12:44:45 UTC
I don't think they'll ever add aliens to Eve. If anything, they might let Terrans run amok in New Eden if the game needs a boost after hitting a schlump or maybe when CCP is about to have the server closed...Terrans might be sufficiently alien enough.

Aside from that though, I think the most we could hope for (and even THIS is a long shot) would be a lost human colony, just outside New Eden's borders. They could have come to colonize back in the old days, but got separated. The only catch could be that they didn't have much of a Dark Age and, like the Jove, are hyper advanced. It's always a possibility, more realistic than ALIUMS.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#38 - 2012-08-27 14:04:50 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:

Sitreba Oonchevkii wrote:
one of the things i really love about eve lore is that it seems more realistic then other sci fi. It has no humanoid, english speaking aliens, no ridiculous "alliance" between humans and aliens, and no cheesy "little green men". it takes place in a fathomable and (somewhat) realistic future.


How is it realistic when in fact there is no proof whatsoever that there isn't intelligent life out there? To be frank, I find that Sci-fi universes that does have alien life in it tend to be a lot deeper and interesting than those that doesn't.


I believe the point is that (in general), aliens used in SciFi are generally to point out some flaw in humanity at the time of writing/production...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Din Chao
#39 - 2012-08-27 14:08:14 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:


Don't know really. You have to remember the distances our ships travel and how many solar systems you can actually visit.

A mere drop in the bucket that is the known universe. Just because we haven't bumped into them doesn't mean they don't exist.

The fact is, the chance of us ever finding intelligent life other than our own is small. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.
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