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Player Organized Arenas (querry of interest)

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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#1 - 2011-09-26 22:14:51 UTC
Hello All,

I know that I would be interested in doing more pvp in a "controlled" environment, as in 2 v 2, 3 v3, etc. The idea has been proposed many times that CCP do this, however, we all know that won't happen (some argue vociferously that it is anti-sandbox).

I am looking for interest primarily, my thoughts would be we do a ladder style system, pilots put down a deposit, locations are kept as secret as possible, for obvious reasons. Anyone found "cheating" loses their deposit, is ineligible for future events, etc. Clearly MANY terms need to be defined.

Why not just go to low sec? cause I feed pirates enough as it is already.

Will there be many ways for people to make it fail? sure there will.

Is it possible to have a lot of fun trying to make it work? Absolutely.

So if you're interested, please post here and let me know. I'll "like" your post so you know I've added your name to my list.

If you hate the idea, and think it and/or I am stupid for suggesting it, please let me know through your silence,

Best
AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-09-26 22:35:42 UTC
If you make a safe-spot in the center of a planet, there is a giant white ring floating around you in space. It makes for a great 1v1 spot. Big smile

I'm back!
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#3 - 2011-09-26 23:54:07 UTC
Heh great idea.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-09-27 00:16:09 UTC
Hmmmm... it's an interesting idea if nothing else. Problem is, as soon as you advertise something like this there's gonna be a bunch of people who turn up simply for nothing more than the pleasure of pissing on your bonfire.

If it works, could be fun, but will it work? More than likely no.

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#5 - 2011-09-27 02:19:44 UTC
My thought is that the location would be dynamic, and the matches "invite only" meaning, you get asked if on night X, you can be within Y jumps of Jita (or other location). Then 15 mins before your match you get your location, if you bring others, you don't get invited back.

There are many ways it could be done, including JCs (although the 24 hr headache is pita). My other thought is to do it in C1 whs, all combatants enter without scan probe launcher, and then the hole is closed. That could provide the security needed.

AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
sukmanobov
Apollyllon
#6 - 2011-09-27 02:52:52 UTC  |  Edited by: sukmanobov
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Hello All,

I know that I would be interested in doing more pvp in a "controlled" environment, as in 2 v 2, 3 v3, etc. The idea has been proposed many times that CCP do this, however, we all know that won't happen (some argue vociferously that it is anti-sandbox).

I am looking for interest primarily, my thoughts would be we do a ladder style system, pilots put down a deposit, locations are kept as secret as possible, for obvious reasons. Anyone found "cheating" loses their deposit, is ineligible for future events, etc. Clearly MANY terms need to be defined.

Why not just go to low sec? cause I feed pirates enough as it is already.

Will there be many ways for people to make it fail? sure there will.

Is it possible to have a lot of fun trying to make it work? Absolutely.

So if you're interested, please post here and let me know. I'll "like" your post so you know I've added your name to my list.

If you hate the idea, and think it and/or I am stupid for suggesting it, please let me know through your silence,

Best
AG


Its not anti sandbox if the players Create it and control it. TBH is it makes it sandbox because player can control it and its not created and run by a dev team from CCP or any other company that involed in the making of eve online.

I for one would love a boxxing ring to siliance the dogs that call me out in eve but it will not happen

1 - Cloaked Logi, TD, Painters all that ****.
2 - It would have to be in 0.0 due to the Sec Status hit if its in low (then it will just get blobbed by some pirate gang. LOL i know would do it)
3 - just see 1 & 2 its the reason it can not happen
Goose99
#7 - 2011-09-27 03:18:06 UTC
Game mechanics do not allow it. AT alliance has god mode gms teleporting you to Jove space. If CCP does change game mechanics, they might as well just implement a real AT style arena, there wouldn't be a need for players to ad-hoc one.
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#8 - 2011-09-27 04:08:19 UTC
sukmanobov wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Hello All,

I know that I would be interested in doing more pvp in a "controlled" environment, as in 2 v 2, 3 v3, etc. The idea has been proposed many times that CCP do this, however, we all know that won't happen (some argue vociferously that it is anti-sandbox).

I am looking for interest primarily, my thoughts would be we do a ladder style system, pilots put down a deposit, locations are kept as secret as possible, for obvious reasons. Anyone found "cheating" loses their deposit, is ineligible for future events, etc. Clearly MANY terms need to be defined.

Why not just go to low sec? cause I feed pirates enough as it is already.

Will there be many ways for people to make it fail? sure there will.

Is it possible to have a lot of fun trying to make it work? Absolutely.

So if you're interested, please post here and let me know. I'll "like" your post so you know I've added your name to my list.

If you hate the idea, and think it and/or I am stupid for suggesting it, please let me know through your silence,

Best
AG


Its not anti sandbox if the players Create it and control it. TBH is it makes it sandbox because player can control it and its not created and run by a dev team from CCP or any other company that involed in the making of eve online.

I for one would love a boxxing ring to siliance the dogs that call me out in eve but it will not happen

1 - Cloaked Logi, TD, Painters all that ****.
2 - It would have to be in 0.0 due to the Sec Status hit if its in low (then it will just get blobbed by some pirate gang. LOL i know would do it)
3 - just see 1 & 2 its the reason it can not happen



Sir, I think you misunderstand me. For CCP to run it, it would be anitsand, I agree. For us, it would be ******* awesome.

I have means for #1 and #2, so I ask, are you interested? If so, eve mail me and for fun, let me know who you're interested in taking on, maybe I can arrange a 1v1 for ya.

AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Goose99
#9 - 2011-09-27 04:45:51 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
sukmanobov wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Hello All,

I know that I would be interested in doing more pvp in a "controlled" environment, as in 2 v 2, 3 v3, etc. The idea has been proposed many times that CCP do this, however, we all know that won't happen (some argue vociferously that it is anti-sandbox).

I am looking for interest primarily, my thoughts would be we do a ladder style system, pilots put down a deposit, locations are kept as secret as possible, for obvious reasons. Anyone found "cheating" loses their deposit, is ineligible for future events, etc. Clearly MANY terms need to be defined.

Why not just go to low sec? cause I feed pirates enough as it is already.

Will there be many ways for people to make it fail? sure there will.

Is it possible to have a lot of fun trying to make it work? Absolutely.

So if you're interested, please post here and let me know. I'll "like" your post so you know I've added your name to my list.

If you hate the idea, and think it and/or I am stupid for suggesting it, please let me know through your silence,

Best
AG


Its not anti sandbox if the players Create it and control it. TBH is it makes it sandbox because player can control it and its not created and run by a dev team from CCP or any other company that involed in the making of eve online.

I for one would love a boxxing ring to siliance the dogs that call me out in eve but it will not happen

1 - Cloaked Logi, TD, Painters all that ****.
2 - It would have to be in 0.0 due to the Sec Status hit if its in low (then it will just get blobbed by some pirate gang. LOL i know would do it)
3 - just see 1 & 2 its the reason it can not happen



Sir, I think you misunderstand me. For CCP to run it, it would be anitsand, I agree. For us, it would be ******* awesome.

I have means for #1 and #2, so I ask, are you interested? If so, eve mail me and for fun, let me know who you're interested in taking on, maybe I can arrange a 1v1 for ya.

AG


Read the above post. You don't have the tools to run it. People have tried. It's impossible.
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-09-27 06:13:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo-Moor
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Hello All,

I know that I would be interested in doing more pvp in a "controlled" environment, as in 2 v 2, 3 v3, etc. The idea has been proposed many times that CCP do this, however, we all know that won't happen (some argue vociferously that it is anti-sandbox).

I am looking for interest primarily, my thoughts would be we do a ladder style system, pilots put down a deposit, locations are kept as secret as possible, for obvious reasons. Anyone found "cheating" loses their deposit, is ineligible for future events, etc. Clearly MANY terms need to be defined.

Why not just go to low sec? cause I feed pirates enough as it is already.

Will there be many ways for people to make it fail? sure there will.

Is it possible to have a lot of fun trying to make it work? Absolutely.

So if you're interested, please post here and let me know. I'll "like" your post so you know I've added your name to my list.

If you hate the idea, and think it and/or I am stupid for suggesting it, please let me know through your silence,

Best
AG


...........

The silence is because I know you want this in hi-sec which is a no-go. The police (Concord) is not going to sit around letting people mame and murder each other. That would be a barbaric society that is not allowed as such in Hi..

As for WH. I don't know many wanting to jump into a WH for ***** and giggles just to arena fight. Practice for AT is a little different. I think a player run arena would be awesome. CCP just has to provide the mechanic whatever that would be.

Possibly it could be something like setting up a station. Laying the egg and filling with preferred modules for 2v2, 3v3.. etc. Something constructed in Null or Lo- (I'd be willing to bend on that one)
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-09-27 08:42:44 UTC
Just use the test server.

I'm back!
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#12 - 2011-09-27 12:20:10 UTC
Attention
Apollo-Moor wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Hello All,

I know that I would be interested in doing more pvp in a "controlled" environment, as in 2 v 2, 3 v3, etc. The idea has been proposed many times that CCP do this, however, we all know that won't happen (some argue vociferously that it is anti-sandbox).

I am looking for interest primarily, my thoughts would be we do a ladder style system, pilots put down a deposit, locations are kept as secret as possible, for obvious reasons. Anyone found "cheating" loses their deposit, is ineligible for future events, etc. Clearly MANY terms need to be defined.

Why not just go to low sec? cause I feed pirates enough as it is already.

Will there be many ways for people to make it fail? sure there will.

Is it possible to have a lot of fun trying to make it work? Absolutely.

So if you're interested, please post here and let me know. I'll "like" your post so you know I've added your name to my list.

If you hate the idea, and think it and/or I am stupid for suggesting it, please let me know through your silence,

Best
AG


...........

The silence is because I know you want this in hi-sec which is a no-go. The police (Concord) is not going to sit around letting people mame and murder each other. That would be a barbaric society that is not allowed as such in Hi..

As for WH. I don't know many wanting to jump into a WH for ***** and giggles just to arena fight. Practice for AT is a little different. I think a player run arena would be awesome. CCP just has to provide the mechanic whatever that would be.

Possibly it could be something like setting up a station. Laying the egg and filling with preferred modules for 2v2, 3v3.. etc. Something constructed in Null or Lo- (I'd be willing to bend on that one)


I think the silence is due to many reasons,

1) Not in the general forum,
2) At best 10% of the player base read the forums, likely less than half of those post,
3) Idea is very vague

Also Apollo-Moor, I didn't mention HS, and I have no intentions of doing HS
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Goose99
#13 - 2011-09-27 13:51:11 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Attention
Apollo-Moor wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
Hello All,

I know that I would be interested in doing more pvp in a "controlled" environment, as in 2 v 2, 3 v3, etc. The idea has been proposed many times that CCP do this, however, we all know that won't happen (some argue vociferously that it is anti-sandbox).

I am looking for interest primarily, my thoughts would be we do a ladder style system, pilots put down a deposit, locations are kept as secret as possible, for obvious reasons. Anyone found "cheating" loses their deposit, is ineligible for future events, etc. Clearly MANY terms need to be defined.

Why not just go to low sec? cause I feed pirates enough as it is already.

Will there be many ways for people to make it fail? sure there will.

Is it possible to have a lot of fun trying to make it work? Absolutely.

So if you're interested, please post here and let me know. I'll "like" your post so you know I've added your name to my list.

If you hate the idea, and think it and/or I am stupid for suggesting it, please let me know through your silence,

Best
AG


...........

The silence is because I know you want this in hi-sec which is a no-go. The police (Concord) is not going to sit around letting people mame and murder each other. That would be a barbaric society that is not allowed as such in Hi..

As for WH. I don't know many wanting to jump into a WH for ***** and giggles just to arena fight. Practice for AT is a little different. I think a player run arena would be awesome. CCP just has to provide the mechanic whatever that would be.

Possibly it could be something like setting up a station. Laying the egg and filling with preferred modules for 2v2, 3v3.. etc. Something constructed in Null or Lo- (I'd be willing to bend on that one)


I think the silence is due to many reasons,

1) Not in the general forum,
2) At best 10% of the player base read the forums, likely less than half of those post,
3) Idea is very vague

Also Apollo-Moor, I didn't mention HS, and I have no intentions of doing HS


How fast can you say "trap?"

As mentioned repeatedly, mechanics doesn't exist. People have tried and failed.
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#14 - 2011-09-27 13:54:41 UTC
lol ... Goose, I understand that the history of these ventures have failed, why do you feel you need to keep repeating yourself? 
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Goose99
#15 - 2011-09-27 15:03:51 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
lol ... Goose, I understand that the history of these ventures have failed, why do you feel you need to keep repeating yourself?


Obviously, I took it upon myself to troll you until you give up on the idea.Cool
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#16 - 2011-09-27 16:05:16 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
lol ... Goose, I understand that the history of these ventures have failed, why do you feel you need to keep repeating yourself?


Obviously, I took it upon myself to troll you until you give up on the idea.Cool


I am grateful for your honesty!

However, I've wanted to organize/participate in arenas with real loss in the land of eve for sometime, and I've decided why wait any longer. I've seen MANY attempts fail, I have some new ideas on the matter (which I'm keeping close to my chest for obvious reasons), and I hope I can make a go of it.

The first step is determining WHO is interested.

Best,
AG
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-09-27 16:18:47 UTC
just idea from top of my head:
1) where: occasionally found wormhole from HS into deep 0.0 space with empty system (and possibly 2-3 empty around).
2) how: you fleet candidates and lead there.
3) candidates fight being in 1 fleet.
3) after it is finished all of them (hehe) return to empire.

this way you make it a lot harder to get gangmates into arena. Yes they will get name of a system with WH but you have some time to finish current fight. And if you fly through wormhole system this will make it a lot more complex to chase you.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#18 - 2011-09-27 16:35:59 UTC
There is lot of different games where is arranged balanced matches every day, maybe you should try one of those instead.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#19 - 2011-09-27 17:27:31 UTC
I might be interested depending on the rules. I wouldn't be interested if you don't have to keep the guy pointed. Either way good luck with it.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#20 - 2011-09-27 18:22:18 UTC
Why not do this via the RvB on-going war? This can be easily set up there.

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