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Looking for Kernite asteroids.

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Michael Lexus
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-26 06:54:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Michael Lexus
Hello, well I'm only a few days new and I love mining in EVE. So far the best Ore I can make profit off is Kernite, I think I don't think I should go for anything beyond that and risk my ship getting destroyed by rats or pirates.

So I'm looking for any asteroid belts that has a nice amount of Kernite ores that is near the Ambrye Constellation, if there is a few rats around no problem but if it has massive pirates then I can't do that.

In return for the information I'll give 10% profit I make from one time hauling it to whoever first post a correct information.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2012-08-26 07:02:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Ore Grid

EDIT: The Ore and Ice Map is really outdated, and often wrong, but you might get lucky.
Michael Lexus
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-08-26 07:05:15 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:

Thank you, I'll get your cut soon.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-08-26 07:05:28 UTC
You'll need to go to Amarr space .7 or lower. A quick look says Manatarid is the closest system that would work.

Good luck.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2012-08-26 07:06:20 UTC
Michael Lexus wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:

Thank you, I'll get your cut soon.

No thanks. Big smile
Michael Lexus
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-08-26 07:08:54 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
You'll need to go to Amarr space .7 or lower. A quick look says Manatarid is the closest system that would work.

Good luck.

How do I find out which space is which? Which is Amarr and which is not?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2012-08-26 07:13:49 UTC
Try Dotlan. This highlights the constellation I mentioned:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Genesis/Ubar

In-game you can see in the upper left which sovereignty you're in.

Beta Stryker
Yet Another Holding Corporation
#8 - 2012-08-26 11:18:58 UTC
Michael Lexus wrote:
Hello, well I'm only a few days new and I love mining in EVE.


I'm sorry...
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#9 - 2012-08-26 16:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Michael Lexus wrote:
So far the best Ore I can make profit off is Kernite.



Can I ask why you believe this to be true?

Here's a tip for you. Different ores take up different quantities of space. You /always/ mine the same volume of ore (ignoring modulated mining lasers for now)

Kernite takes up 1.2 m3 per unit.
Veldspar takes up 0.1 m3 per unit

Do you make 12 times as much per unit on Kernite, than you do on Veldspar?

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Zifrian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-08-26 16:36:26 UTC
Check the program in my sig to find out what is most profitable. Scordite should be better than kernite.

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#11 - 2012-08-27 00:46:32 UTC
Michael Lexus wrote:
Hello, well I'm only a few days new and I love mining in EVE. So far the best Ore I can make profit off is Kernite, I think I don't think I should go for anything beyond that and risk my ship getting destroyed by rats or pirates.

So I'm looking for any asteroid belts that has a nice amount of Kernite ores that is near the Ambrye Constellation, if there is a few rats around no problem but if it has massive pirates then I can't do that.

In return for the information I'll give 10% profit I make from one time hauling it to whoever first post a correct information.


Kernite isn't usually the most profitable kind of roid to suck on. I mostly use this simple chart to determine what general kind of asteroids to suck ore from. Note that Kernite is pretty far down the list. Veldspar is much better, and Scordite is better still.

Note that that chart only shows general ore types. Within each general ore type there are two special subtypes, that give 5% and 10% better minerals yield when refined. These have distinctive names, e.g. Massive Scordite instead of just Scordite. If in doubt, suck named ores in priority to unnamed ores (e.g. C. Scordite and M. Scordite first, then Scordite last) but you don't really benefit from learning to distinguish between the 105% and the 110% types.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#12 - 2012-08-27 00:47:47 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Do you make 12 times as much per unit on Kernite, than you do on Veldspar?


No he doesn't.
stoicfaux
#13 - 2012-08-27 00:49:10 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Within each general ore type there are two special subtypes, that give 5% and 10% better minerals yield when refined.

I'll bite. Why would you refine kernite?

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#14 - 2012-08-27 00:57:24 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Salpad wrote:
Within each general ore type there are two special subtypes, that give 5% and 10% better minerals yield when refined.

I'll bite. Why would you refine kernite?



I just refine everything and sell the minerals. But I supposed you're referring to the mission runner market. I think it's basic Omber and basic Kernite, that some mission runners are willing to pay a high price for.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#15 - 2012-08-27 01:01:07 UTC
Salpad wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Salpad wrote:
Within each general ore type there are two special subtypes, that give 5% and 10% better minerals yield when refined.

I'll bite. Why would you refine kernite?



I just refine everything and sell the minerals. But I supposed you're referring to the mission runner market. I think it's basic Omber and basic Kernite, that some mission runners are willing to pay a high price for.



Yup. The special versions don't fill the mission requirements. Just sell them for an elevated price in the same system as storyline agents.

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#16 - 2012-08-27 03:56:29 UTC
From 1 miner to another, if its isk'ies you're after then mine veldspar, problem with kernite is stated above "INCLUDING" it is a problem trying to find enough to make it worthwhile, where as you can find a 170k veldspar roid and park your mining barge next to it and mine away without taking time to move from field to field looking for kernite you can easily find 100,000+ veldspar roids sitting next to each other. so rig your barge properly and work towards T-2 lasers the yield is well worth it, veld is you're best money maker, scordite is also great, but for simi AFK nothing beats veldspar. Big smile
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-08-27 05:45:57 UTC
If you really want Kernite, there are a number of newbie industrial missions that will spawn a belt just for you:

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Tutorial_and_Career_Agents_in_Eve

Industry mission arc, step 9. You can do it for each race, for each bloodline, for a total of 12 times.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#18 - 2012-08-27 11:24:32 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:
If you really want Kernite, there are a number of newbie industrial missions that will spawn a belt just for you:

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Tutorial_and_Career_Agents_in_Eve

Industry mission arc, step 9. You can do it for each race, for each bloodline, for a total of 12 times.


Do newbie missions expire?

If not, don't complete them, and they /should/ respawn around downtime. Free private belts.

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Idris Helion
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-08-27 13:15:05 UTC
I wouldn't automatically assume that Kernite is the best ore you can mine. The minerals it produces are high-value, but the roids are smaller and the ore itself takes up more volume in your ore bay (which means you get less of it per m3 than, say, Veldspar). Listen to Chribba: if you're mining for profit in hisec, stick with Veldspar. Over the years, day in and day out, Veld is the best isk/hour ore in hisec. Many people have tried to crunch the numbers otherwise, but it keeps coming up Veld/Trit.

If you're manufacturing, you obviously need different minerals, but even then if you have low refining skills it makes a lot more sense to buy the minerals rather than try to mine them yourself. In fact, if you really are a relative noob, don't even try to refine the ore (regardless of the type) because you're going to take a huge loss on refining fees and wastage. Just sell the ore directly. Until you get your Refining skill up to IV or V, just sell the ore.

Chribba is wise, so pay heed: Veldspar.
Idris Helion
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-08-27 13:18:37 UTC
One more thing about refining your ore into minerals: not all stations are the same. Some only refine at 35% rather than 50%, and your standings with the corp that owns the station also affect your production rate (low standings means that the corp has a higher "we take x amount" rate).

Here is a background on the Refining mechanics of EVE: http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Refining
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