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Ireland VonVicious Vicious Trading Company Likes received: 407	#21 - 2012-08-27 11:48:11 UTC Ratlesnake is the L4 king now. Don't use the fit posted in this thread. Use cruise missles. Fly with a shield booster. Prop mod and tp can be added as well while still having a big tank.

Kara Books

Deal with IT.

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#22 - 2012-08-27 23:12:20 UTC

Rattle no questions if and or doubts if you enjoy running missions, killing everything.

I would suggest, this fitting (severly overtanked 550 DPS) for some of the more DPS'y missions out there, the kind that will fry a drake in under 1 min, you know which ones im talkin about.

4 Gurista cruise, 1 salvage 1 tractor and lvl 5 in Electronic drones (to get that drone range and drop the high range mod)
Damage control
passive fittings ev else
2 invuls and other passive goodies to patch the resist holes to thwart gankers in .6 and lower systems.
all regen T2 rigs.

tank is extreme! you want one of these, do trust me, if you gonna go rattle, might as well have 2-3 different ones in different regions + jump clones.

2nd fitting, Isnt my type, but deals something close to 800 DPS, 12500 Burst tank, YES thats right, 12.5K tank! active of course.
1 cap rig T1
1 cap rig T2
3rd rig to increase shield capacity or increase drone damage, I chose shield.
2 X X-Large anciliary routers
Damage control, the rest is on you braw

3rd rattle, cheep T2 fitted active tank, for everything Drunk Spaceship flying related.

Cage Man

Fusion Enterprises Ltd

Pandemic Horde

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#23 - 2012-08-28 02:11:46 UTC

How did you fit your navy scorp?? If you use rigor rigs and 2 x tp you will see a big difference in applied damage. With fury cruise missiles and this fit you will do full damage to cruisers.

If you going to use a rattler, use at least 3 x drone damage mods and 2 omni directional and active tank it. One big advantage the rattler has over the domi's is you can omni tank it.

Mukirana

Lone Lion Corporation

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#24 - 2012-08-28 19:58:07 UTC

Cage Man wrote:

Currently I'm using this loadout for the Navy Scorpion:

[Scorpion Navy Issue]
Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System

EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Hardeners and missiles are changed according to the missions I get. It's 593 DPS an can omni tank 525 Dps, if I change the BCU for Caldari Navy BCU I get 621 DPS.

I was thinking about something like this:

[Dominix Navy Issue]
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Against Angels it will tank 336 DPS for around 12 minutes, and can dish out 801 DPS with 52KM optimal for garde's.

OR

[Rattlesnake]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile

Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

With the rattle I'll get 876 DPS with garde's and missiles, gardes have a 46KM optimal. (706 DPS and 114 Km optimal with wardens). Cap is stable and my weakest tank should be agains Blood/Sansha around 321 DPS.

So what do you think?

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

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#25 - 2012-08-28 20:27:39 UTC | Edited by: Zhilia Mann

Mukirana wrote:

I was thinking about something like this:

[Dominix Navy Issue]
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Against Angels it will tank 336 DPS for around 12 minutes, and can dish out 801 DPS with 52KM optimal for garde's.

....

So what do you think?

Shield tank that NDomi. Something like this should work:

[Dominix Navy Issue, gank rails drone damage mods blood sansha]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Field
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Berserker II x5

1115 with 45 optimal. Weakest tank is BR with 340 sustained (with cap boosters).

Or you could go crazy and use ASBs:

[Dominix Navy Issue, gank rails drone damage mods blood sansha ASB]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II
Tracking Enhancer II

Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I

Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Berserker II x5

Edit: one of those ASBs will get you 611 BR tank (your weakest). Both running would be silly but your reload is covered by the second. Note that the ASB build is also much cheaper than any of the other options listed due to having only two faction mods. This is partially (very partially) offset by consuming cap 400s, but you can buy a shitload of 400s before you add up to a Gist C XL or a Corpus X LAR.

mama guru

Yazatas.

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#26 - 2012-08-29 10:12:23 UTC

Never overtank your mission ship, but never put it at risk either, the faster you kill everything the more money you make. Plan your skills and investments accordingly

[Rattlesnake, ASB Carebear]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Sensor Booster II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Light Drones

870 dps - more dps is more isk.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Isk Gusher]
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Caldari Navy Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Target Painter II
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

750+ dps with good skills, can break 800 with max or with implants.
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CAP BOOSTERS NEVER HURT YOUR EFFECTIVE INCOME IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH DPS, and decent piloting skills.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.

John Ratcliffe

Tradors'R'us

IChooseYou Alliance

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#27 - 2012-08-29 10:23:02 UTC

I really don't think ASBs work for PVE. I've tried them and me no likey Sad

An X-Large Booster and Shield Amp with mission specific resists is sufficient IMHO. I have just under 4 mins cap on my CNR with the booster on, and that is more than sufficient for any Lvl 4. Getting away from the notion of being crap stable has allowed a 4th BCU and 2 Rigors, which provide a nice DPS increase.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

Orcirk

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#28 - 2012-08-29 20:02:49 UTC

Kara Books wrote:

Rattle no questions if and or doubts if you enjoy running missions, killing everything.

I would suggest, this fitting (severly overtanked 550 DPS) for some of the more DPS'y missions out there, the kind that will fry a drake in under 1 min, you know which ones im talkin about.

2nd fitting, Isnt my type, but deals something close to 800 DPS

And here I thought the domi was best at killing things. (just something I threw together in eft btw, been a while since I've bothered with missions)

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