These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
123Next pageLast page
 

Unlimited TRIAL PERIOD

Author
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#1 - 2012-08-25 18:59:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost of Truth
Greetings my Fellow Capsuleers

Why the trial of the game is just 20 days?

How many of us, when we first started the game, fully understood what EVE is, the ups and downs, and all the myriad play styles the Cluster Provides?

I, personally, after years of playing, have only experienced High Sec Missions , a little bit of mining and Null sec Wars, But what about FW?Industry? Market Wars?Incursions?Wormholes?Probably quite different experiences that I might enjoy more than what I have done so far ( or not).But I have time to at least taste them and decide.

Pilots in trial don't.

If the trial's purpose is to showcase the game as best as possible to a new client, it does it in such a poor way.In other MMOGs out there, 20 days are enough to see the main part of the game, because different playstyle options are limited, if no existent.And most of them are played the same way, so a experienced player can jump in and start getting to the juicier parts.



So why not free up the Trial.Most essential stuff are locked anyway .You cant make 'free' cyno alts or any alt of value.It will just give time for a customer to experience the depths of EVE, and this means more chances to get past the harder, and mundane parts of the Learning cliff of Doom ( I am looking at you UI & game mechanics) .Also more time has invested in a MMORPG then it has greater chances of staying.

Discuss and feedback would be awesome.
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#2 - 2012-08-25 18:59:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Sugar Kyle
The trial is 14 daysBig smile

There are longer ones for the buddy invite but that is 21 or so?

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2012-08-25 19:01:54 UTC
My trial lasted 7 days, came with next to no turtorial, 5000 isk, attribute point seemingly only in charisma and far less skillpoints.

Suck it up wimp.
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#4 - 2012-08-25 19:02:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost of Truth
Sugar Kyle wrote:
The trial is 14 daysBig smile

There are longer ones for the buddy invite but that is 21 or so?


I wrote about the maximum time allowed.Also that part that is a bit insane.A pilot with an experienced player by his side has more days than a completely clueless player?
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#5 - 2012-08-25 19:04:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
My trial lasted 7 days, came with next to no turtorial, 5000 isk, attribute point seemingly only in charisma and far less skillpoints.

Suck it up wimp.

So what is your point?That your are awesome?Special? OK you are.What about the less awesome than you?
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#6 - 2012-08-25 19:05:15 UTC
A 30-day trial might make sense, give them time enough to *almost* train for the stuff that's locked.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-08-25 19:07:54 UTC
Sugar Kyle wrote:
The trial is 14 daysBig smile

There are longer ones for the buddy invite but that is 21 or so?


Hi tharrr :3
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-08-25 19:08:00 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:

So what is your point?That your are awesome?Special? OK you are.What about the less awesome than you?


Darwin will sort them out.

Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#9 - 2012-08-25 19:09:53 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:

So what is your point?That your are awesome?Special? OK you are.What about the less awesome than you?


Darwin will sort them out.



Evolution does not work the way you thing it does....
Cede Forster
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-08-25 19:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Cede Forster
played games like that, pretty nasty side effects

the trial period could be a little longer and a little more restricted

also:
Ghost of Truth wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:

So what is your point?That your are awesome?Special? OK you are.What about the less awesome than you?

Darwin will sort them out.

Evolution does not work the way you thing it does....


darwin does not sort anything, he is dead
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#11 - 2012-08-25 19:14:08 UTC
Cede Forster wrote:
played games like that, pretty nasty side effects

the trial period could be a little longer and a little more restricted


Please share the nasty side effects. Also if more restrictions in skill could be implemented thats not bad.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2012-08-25 19:17:10 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:


Evolution does not work the way you thing it does....


Sure it does.

On an more serious note generally speaking the biggest hurdle to EVE is if you can make your own content or not. Doesn't matter how many days you give them, if they cannot do this then they will end up leaving. 14 days is more than enough time to figure things out.
Cede Forster
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-08-25 19:19:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Cede Forster
it might not be obvious at first glance, but people are cheap and will play even a very restricted game as trial account, as long it is free (see the F2P increasing player numbers)

separating the society then in a very big part of "free accounts" and a relative small number of "premium account", which would mean that massive increase of new players and players who made alts who do not pay

you use the "free accounts" to do the crap work and high risk work. scouting, botting, collecting sp for selling it ect

i'd be ugly, very similar to what you experience when a game goes F2P


you think people in eve have a bad attitude, you have no idea what happens if it gets free to play,

"Greater internet ******* Theory" ^ 10


case it happens, i link back to this post, mkay? Blink
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#14 - 2012-08-25 19:28:20 UTC
Cede Forster wrote:
it might not be obvious at first glance, but people are cheap and will play even a very restricted game as trial account, as long it is free (see the F2P increasing player numbers)

separating the society then in a very big part of "free accounts" and a relative small number of "premium account", which would mean that massive increase of new players and players who made alts who do not pay

you use the "free accounts" to do the crap work and high risk work. scouting, botting, collecting sp for selling it ect

i'd be ugly, very similar to what you experience when a game goes F2P


you think people in eve have a bad attitude, you have no idea what happens if it gets free to play,

"Greater internet ******* Theory" ^ 10


case it happens, i link back to this post, mkay? Blink


Hmmm....True.I haven't considered this.However a much longer trial period is still needed I think.14 days or 21 at best are too short in my opinion.
Kel Shek
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-08-25 19:34:42 UTC
another layer on top of what has been said....

an extra week would *not* actually accomplish much as far as showing more of the game. what do you want to be able to do that you'd be able to do in 30 days that you couldn't do in 21 days, that would not realistically HAVE to be locked out of trials?

Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#16 - 2012-08-25 19:40:12 UTC
Kel Shek wrote:
another layer on top of what has been said....

an extra week would *not* actually accomplish much as far as showing more of the game. what do you want to be able to do that you'd be able to do in 30 days that you couldn't do in 21 days, that would not realistically HAVE to be locked out of trials?


The main Trial is just 14 days....21 (a week more!) you get if someone invites you, and possibly show you around.And I dont think 2lvl missions are really what Eve is about
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2012-08-25 19:47:07 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Ghost of Truth wrote:

The main Trial is just 14 days....21 (a week more!) you get if someone invites you, and possibly show you around.And I dont think 2lvl missions are really what Eve is about


most of the content can be accessed within 30 minutes of startingBlink
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#18 - 2012-08-25 19:52:56 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:

The main Trial is just 14 days....21 (a week more!) you get if someone invites you, and possibly show you around.And I dont think 2lvl missions are really what Eve is about


most of the content can be accessed within 30 minutes of startingBlink


Getting ganged 2 jumps from the starting systems is kinda of one sided experience for PVP.
Kel Shek
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-08-25 19:55:23 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Kel Shek wrote:
another layer on top of what has been said....

an extra week would *not* actually accomplish much as far as showing more of the game. what do you want to be able to do that you'd be able to do in 30 days that you couldn't do in 21 days, that would not realistically HAVE to be locked out of trials?


The main Trial is just 14 days....21 (a week more!) you get if someone invites you, and possibly show you around.And I dont think 2lvl missions are really what Eve is about



sure. ... and doubling that would *still* not increase all that much.

if they increased the time, they'd have to restrict it down tighter.

what are you going to do with a month of time that you can't do with 2 or 3 weeks, that would not HAVE to be locked down?
the scale on skills and such for eve is at such a level that I don't think a week or two weeks extra is going to get you experience in the game that you couldn't do sooner.

in some ways, IMO having a week of extra time, but hitting into more restritions as to what you can do with that time, would be more frustrating.

I think its a pretty good balance at the moment.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2012-08-25 19:58:14 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:

The main Trial is just 14 days....21 (a week more!) you get if someone invites you, and possibly show you around.And I dont think 2lvl missions are really what Eve is about


most of the content can be accessed within 30 minutes of startingBlink


Getting ganged 2 jumps from the starting systems is kinda of one sided experience for PVP.


A 1 billion isk dram or a 500k executioner. In the end it matters not to the dead dreadnought.
123Next pageLast page