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two incrusions back to back in the same AREA?!! SERIOUSLY?!

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Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#21 - 2012-08-25 16:00:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Deacon Abox
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Ian Harms wrote:
Hauling Hal wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Random Number Generator is random.


Sure it's random - so it shouldn't pop up in the SAME PLACE TWICE AFTER ONLY A FEW HOURS OF CLEAR!!!

Lost more ships to instalocking incursion rats on gates then to the war targets. For crying out loud.


Aww. Disums poor widdl ISK farmer lose him's pwecious widdl ship?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=952636 Mortimer
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=144285 Ian

I've met Ian Harms. I've killed, and been killed by Ian Harms. You sir are no Ian HarmsP

Seriously if you are going throw that kind of an insult at somebody do it with your main. Or with a second account character that has more than 3 kills (like me). Blink

As to the subject matter - Yeah it's a pita to have to deal with the incursion rats. One benefit is it does tend to limit the use of BCs. So it's been some fun having these guests around that tend to limit our little war to frigs, dessys, and cruisers in the plexes. On the other hand it does limit other activities in the area, so they really overstayed their welcome by coming back for another week, right after they left. Sansha go homeX

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-08-25 16:07:56 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
Hauling Hal wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Random Number Generator is random.


Sure it's random - so it shouldn't pop up in the SAME PLACE TWICE AFTER ONLY A FEW HOURS OF CLEAR!!!

Lost more ships to instalocking incursion rats on gates then to the war targets. For crying out loud.




That's actually exactly what random means.

The same way this is a random sequence of numbers:

123456789
Ginger Barbarella
#23 - 2012-08-25 16:35:13 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
I don't know who's sick perverse sense of humor it is to have an incursion drop in the caldari war zone, then hours after it goes away ANOTHER one is up affecting the VERY SAME SYSTEM.


So farmers make more easy cash. What of it? Did yer shiny faction-fit Mach get ganked at an incursion?

Please....

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#24 - 2012-08-25 16:42:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Deacon Abox
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Ian Harms wrote:
I don't know who's sick perverse sense of humor it is to have an incursion drop in the caldari war zone, then hours after it goes away ANOTHER one is up affecting the VERY SAME SYSTEM.


So farmers make more easy cash. What of it? Did yer shiny faction-fit Mach get ganked at an incursion?

Please....

You know, on a purely aggregate basis the squids (and there are so many of them) might deserve some "farmer" scorn. However, I feel I must step in again and defend the honor of the honorable space foe. Ian is not a farmer, although he may have a throwaway alt farmer running major plexes in a no-gun speed and stabbed frig What?

Anyway, for the ramaining npc corp alts that wish to post their scorn here. THE CONSTELLATION IS IN LOW SEC. But yes, do us all a favor and come run the sansha vanguards with faction -fit Machs.P

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#25 - 2012-08-25 17:09:17 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Deacon Abox wrote:

Anyway, for the ramaining npc corp alts that wish to post their scorn here. THE CONSTELLATION IS IN LOW SEC. But yes, do us all a favor and come run the sansha vanguards with faction -fit Machs.P


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14423503
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14423503
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-25 17:16:45 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:

I've met Ian Harms. I've killed, and been killed by Ian Harms. You sir are no Ian HarmsP
Did I state anywhere that I was? No? Then quit harping on about it.

Quote:
Seriously if you are going throw that kind of an insult at somebody do it with your main. Or with a second account character that has more than 3 kills (like me). Blink
Look out everybody, we got a badazz on the interwebs here. I only have this account so your little strawman goes poof.

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As to the subject matter - Yeah it's a pita to have to deal with the incursion rats. One benefit is it does tend to limit the use of BCs. So it's been some fun having these guests around that tend to limit our little war to frigs, dessys, and cruisers in the plexes. On the other hand it does limit other activities in the area, so they really overstayed their welcome by coming back for another week, right after they left. Sansha go homeX

Three words: Deal With It.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-08-25 17:19:03 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
To the gentleman who said "You could, you know, run the incursion so it goes away rather than come to the forums." - while in faction warfare. Really? really?


Yes, be happy you don't have things like jump bridges to maintain or important infrastructure to protect when these things come to your neighborhood.

You think you have it rough in low sec when you get them? These things have the potential to knock out vital strategic links for null sec alliances during massive wars where trillions are on the line.

Stop your whining.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#28 - 2012-08-25 17:46:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Deacon Abox
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
something something . . Three words: Deal With It.

A thread was posted. It does not affect you, does it? I think that it is you, no u , that are not dealing with it. Look within. Why does the usual run of the mill rhetorical how did this happen op offend you so deeply?Lol

As for being a bad ass. Yeah, fear me. I'm pvp-ing up a storm out here, pray I don't visit you.Pirate I'll damp you to death.

Oh and look a dev posted his tongue in cheek reply. I don't think he would have bothered unless he was also a little surprised as well. We all know that random means you could win the lottery, twice. We all would be a little surprised, if it happened.P

edit - wtg Darth.P Yep, we want more

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Pipa Porto
#29 - 2012-08-25 18:03:56 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
Hauling Hal wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Random Number Generator is random.


Sure it's random - so it shouldn't pop up in the SAME PLACE TWICE AFTER ONLY A FEW HOURS OF CLEAR!!!

Lost more ships to instalocking incursion rats on gates then to the war targets. For crying out loud.



You don't quite understand the concept of Random, do you?

Think of a coin being flipped many times. Would you be worried about its fairness if it came up heads twice in a row? You shouldn't be.

Each time an Incursion is cleared, it pops up in a random constellation. There is a 1 in (# of LS Constellations) chance of it popping up in the same constellation it was just in. Just like a Coin doesn't care if its last flip was heads or tails, the Incursion doesn't care where it was last driven from.

Anyway, if it bothers you, run it and clear it.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Shirakus
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-08-25 18:15:55 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
To the gentleman who said "You could, you know, run the incursion so it goes away rather than come to the forums." - while in faction warfare. Really? really?


Let's see if I got this right....

You're in faction warfare, together with your allies you're waging war against players who fight for another faction. You're able to engage hostile players but you imply that you and your friends are incapable of fighting a bunch of NPC's. So what you're saying is basically that you expect to win a war against other players without even having enough organisation and skill within your ranks to handle group PVE content in the game. Good luck, you'll need it.
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-08-25 19:01:14 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:
Something...something, My K/D ratio makes me important... veiled threats...something... something.


What gets me, is self important and entitled little pricks like the OP, who come crying on the forums with what amounts to, "but WHY!!! CCP FIX it naow." The random number God giveth and he taketh away. Stop blubbering, HTFU and deal with it, or GTFO. You have a great opportunity to do some great frig/desi roams, but you're wasting it crying on the forums about how unfair it is that the incursion respawned on top of you again. Roll

Oh and Ian can defend himself on the forums he doesn't need you...unless you and he are one and the same.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#32 - 2012-08-25 19:04:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Hauling Hal wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Random Number Generator is random.

It's only pseudo-random, you know… P



its true whever i put on shuffle on my ipod it happens to always select the same damn 20 songs over and over again...

silly algorithms

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#33 - 2012-08-25 19:24:36 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Something...something, My K/D ratio makes me important... veiled threats...something... something.


What gets me, is self important and entitled little pricks like the OP, who come crying on the forums with what amounts to, "but WHY!!! CCP FIX it naow." The random number God giveth and he taketh away. Stop blubbering, HTFU and deal with it, or GTFO. You have a great opportunity to do some great frig/desi roams, but you're wasting it crying on the forums about how unfair it is that the incursion respawned on top of you again. Roll

Oh and Ian can defend himself on the forums he doesn't need you...unless you and he are one and the same.

I have come the conclusion, that, sadly, you lack a sense of humor.

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#34 - 2012-08-25 19:29:09 UTC
Ian Harms wrote:
Sure it's random - so it shouldn't pop up in the SAME PLACE TWICE AFTER ONLY A FEW HOURS OF CLEAR!!!
…and then people get angry with me when I tell them that they (and the human brain in general) don't understand the concept of “random”.

For instance, look at this row of random numbers: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#35 - 2012-08-25 19:47:01 UTC
James 315 wrote:
I thought people who grind isk in highsec LIKED incursions? What?


Yeah but I think they think it is slightly less pathetic than hiding in a NPC to avoid war decs while babbling about being king of space and bumping mining ships for a living?

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-08-26 01:12:53 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Ian Harms wrote:
To the gentleman who said "You could, you know, run the incursion so it goes away rather than come to the forums." - while in faction warfare. Really? really?


Yes, be happy you don't have things like jump bridges to maintain or important infrastructure to protect when these things come to your neighborhood.

You think you have it rough in low sec when you get them? These things have the potential to knock out vital strategic links for null sec alliances during massive wars where trillions are on the line.

Stop your whining.



So basically throwing a nice big wrench into the null sec carebears dream empires? Sounds like we need a higher spawn rate for incursions in null sec. Get on it CCP!
Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#37 - 2012-08-26 05:26:55 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Ian Harms wrote:
Hauling Hal wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Random Number Generator is random.


Sure it's random - so it shouldn't pop up in the SAME PLACE TWICE AFTER ONLY A FEW HOURS OF CLEAR!!!

Lost more ships to instalocking incursion rats on gates then to the war targets. For crying out loud.


Aww. Disums poor widdl ISK farmer lose him's pwecious widdl ship?


Naw - getting tired of losing more pvp ships to incursion rats than your militia
Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#38 - 2012-08-26 05:36:45 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Ian Harms wrote:
I don't know who's sick perverse sense of humor it is to have an incursion drop in the caldari war zone, then hours after it goes away ANOTHER one is up affecting the VERY SAME SYSTEM.


So farmers make more easy cash. What of it? Did yer shiny faction-fit Mach get ganked at an incursion?

Please....

You know, on a purely aggregate basis the squids (and there are so many of them) might deserve some "farmer" scorn. However, I feel I must step in again and defend the honor of the honorable space foe. Ian is not a farmer, although he may have a throwaway alt farmer running major plexes in a no-gun speed and stabbed frig What?

Anyway, for the ramaining npc corp alts that wish to post their scorn here. THE CONSTELLATION IS IN LOW SEC. But yes, do us all a favor and come run the sansha vanguards with faction -fit Machs.P


LOL! love it Deacon - yell if you ever find an incursion fleet in Nenn - we'll help the gallante gank it first - loot then gloves are off, truce is over =P

FYI - I had 240K lp between both my militia toons - of which I dump 133K into an ihub - def not a farmer
Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#39 - 2012-08-26 05:46:42 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Ian Harms wrote:
To the gentleman who said "You could, you know, run the incursion so it goes away rather than come to the forums." - while in faction warfare. Really? really?


Yes, be happy you don't have things like jump bridges to maintain or important infrastructure to protect when these things come to your neighborhood.

You think you have it rough in low sec when you get them? These things have the potential to knock out vital strategic links for null sec alliances during massive wars where trillions are on the line.

Stop your whining.


No one ever said it wouldn't be worse for you dude - and I'll quit whining when you start paying my subscription =P
Ian Harms
Troll Legion
#40 - 2012-08-26 06:28:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ian Harms
Okay done quoting -

Run it? erm.....Enaluri (my home system in low sec) sits right next to Nennamalia. For those that don't know, Nennamalia is the Gallante Militia's main forward base, if not their BIGGEST military station. You high sec carebears get scared of a war target rifter warping in, let alone running incursions in a system where there are between 10-40 war targets at all times. Get out more and experience more of eve dudes.

As for the gentleman calling me a "self important entitled prick". Hey, I worked for everything I got, no one gave it to me. If you think I'm a self important prick......have we met? =P

The one relevant comment you did say was about using the opportunity to get fights in Dessies and frigs - Most of our fights ARE in dessies and frigs regardless - and have you ever heard the word instalocking? Frigs are taken down too. Want to suggest we go fight the gallante militia in pods now because the rats won't lock those?

And as for QQing that someone else in a public forums called you out for what you said in a public forum.....really?

And YES I was raging when I originally posted this. After fighting a three way against 2 armor hac/cruiser/pocket battleship fleets at the same time in your outnumbered battleship fleet, de-agressing AND managing to GTFO with your Megathron..........getting killed by sansha rats isn't what you think about as one tries to get safe. But as a lot of said - suck it up and move on.

@ Deacon, you are one funny guy, and decent it appears too. Salute to a fellow honorable warrior.
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