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Make "cloak device" cycle of up to 10-30 minutes, without possibility autorepeat
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State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-08-25 13:18:48 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
up for DEV

Devs are busy making things for Eve, they have better things to do than explain elementary game concepts to those too dumb to figure them out alone.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#22 - 2012-08-25 22:14:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tikktokk Tokkzikk
Nikk Narrel wrote:
This is clearly a troll who tries to exchange Null Sec for Null Risk.

Attempting to dictate terms to pilots who have different play styles is a cry for help.
Here is your answer then: you are in over your head, and if you cannot adapt to the harsh realities of null sec, then you need to get out of the deep water.

Seriously equating wormholes as identical to regular space with the exception that there is no local, simply points out your lack of experience in them. The differences are far more reaching, as any pilot who spent significant time in one knows.


The harsh reality is that because of NAP-fests and equally stupid things, nullsec is much safer than lowsec and maybe even highsec.

Edit: And NO! AFK-cloaking is currently one of the few ways to counter local. I'd say "go back to highsec if you want risk-free PvE" but null is probably as safe or safer.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#23 - 2012-08-26 00:08:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
OP: unless you do something bad or groundbreaking, you won't get a CCP response in this section.

Also, this idea will hurt active cloak pilots. Badly.


Will it stop afk cloaking. Sure. So will going to the afk cloaker's house and shooting their computer. Its still a bad idea (though not as illegal... the suggested change I mean).

Edit: did anyone else read the OP in Yoda voice?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-08-26 01:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:
Nikk Narrel wrote:
This is clearly a troll who tries to exchange Null Sec for Null Risk.

Attempting to dictate terms to pilots who have different play styles is a cry for help.
Here is your answer then: you are in over your head, and if you cannot adapt to the harsh realities of null sec, then you need to get out of the deep water.

Seriously equating wormholes as identical to regular space with the exception that there is no local, simply points out your lack of experience in them. The differences are far more reaching, as any pilot who spent significant time in one knows.


The harsh reality is that because of NAP-fests and equally stupid things, nullsec is much safer than lowsec and maybe even highsec.

Edit: And NO! AFK-cloaking is currently one of the few ways to counter local. I'd say "go back to highsec if you want risk-free PvE" but null is probably as safe or safer.

It's only safer (and situationally so) because the combination of sovereignty, standings, and aggression mechanics allows you to treat anyone unknown to you in local as a potential hostile, which is simply impossible to do in highsec. You also have to, you know, pay attention in order to be safe. And highsec is safer in general anyway unless you fit something worth getting ganked for.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Captain Robby
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-08-26 08:14:41 UTC
ok heres a idea if you remove cloakers from local when they cloak then cloakers should not be able to see local that seems fair :)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-08-26 08:26:58 UTC
Captain Robby wrote:
ok heres a idea if you remove cloakers from local when they cloak then cloakers should not be able to see local that seems fair :)

That doesn't solve any of the aforementioned problems.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#27 - 2012-08-26 09:29:49 UTC
R0cky Marciano wrote:
up for DEV


write a mail to dev. Threads in public forums are for all users.
And you suck at this game.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#28 - 2012-08-26 11:44:05 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Captain Robby wrote:
ok heres a idea if you remove cloakers from local when they cloak then cloakers should not be able to see local that seems fair :)
That doesn't solve any of the aforementioned problems.
It solves AFK cloaking completely, for one…
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-08-26 11:59:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Captain Robby wrote:
ok heres a idea if you remove cloakers from local when they cloak then cloakers should not be able to see local that seems fair :)
That doesn't solve any of the aforementioned problems.
It solves AFK cloaking completely, for one…

It creates a few problems though. This doesn't really hinder using cloaks as a scout because they'll just briefly decloak whenever they want to get a look at local (of course causing them to appear in local as well). Of course one could merely camp anomalies semi-afk, waiting for a ratting carrier or such to show up so that they can hot drop them.

In essence, this would be a tremendous nerf to nullsec PVE and the result would be a mass exodus. Not a change for the better.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
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