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API Fee, Yes or No?
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Dylan Dawn
Dawn Mining Corporation
#1 - 2012-08-22 18:36:11 UTC
Last year I was thinking about writing a application based on the EVE Online API. When they announced the "Monetizing of 3rd Party Apps" I told myself: "I'm supposed to pay because I want to make the game better? No thanks."

Now I'm wondering: Has this actually happened or not? So far I could not find any official statement that has a definitive answer to this question or any way to sign up for it. It looks like that announcement in 2011 and the subsequent comments thread made that idea disappear.

So my question is: Is the use of the API for third party apps free of charge / fee / fine whatever you want to call it or not?
I cannot find anything about it from CPP and I also did not find anything in the EULA or Terms of Service which makes me guess that it is still free.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2012-08-22 19:36:48 UTC
Short answer:
It's free to use. But you can't charge for it.

Longer answer:
Here are the slides from the licensing presentation, at Fanfest.
https://plus.google.com/photos/104420254081686601186/albums/5723099856571622625

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NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#3 - 2012-08-22 19:54:37 UTC
How ever you can charge for it if you give ccp money.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#4 - 2012-08-22 19:56:27 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
How ever you can charge for it if you give ccp money.



If you do want to charge for it, you should talk to legal@ccpgames.com (iirc).

As you'll need to license their IP

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Dylan Dawn
Dawn Mining Corporation
#5 - 2012-08-22 20:34:14 UTC
The only thing I was thinking of was ads to pay some of the server costs, guess that is considered commercial use ?
Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-08-22 20:48:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Khorkrak
Look here for info from CCP regarding using Ads: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_Online_Fansite_AdSense_Guide

In particular read through this to get the answers you need: http://community.eveonline.com/community/fs_guidelines.asp Read the tedious and boring fansite agreement that appears when you click Next at the bottom. Key part:

Use the Property in relation to any commercial activity. This includes, for example, paying a printer to print some flyers, obtaining sponsorship, or selling non-CCP Games materials using CCP’s trademarks. This shall not prevent websites from using revenues from banner ads to cover the costs of the website operation, as long as such advertising is not the primary purpose of the website in question and advertisements are in compliance with EVE Online End User License Agreement, EVE Online Terms of Service and EVE Website Terms of Use Agreement.

Note the grammatical errors in their text - verification it's authentic CCP material :P

Developer of http://www.decloaked.com and http://sourceforge.net/projects/pykb/
Dylan Dawn
Dawn Mining Corporation
#7 - 2012-08-22 21:05:36 UTC
So basically you can use ads, if you have total control over what they show. Which rules AdSense and most other automated programs out because you cannot control what ads are shown, you can only make _best effort_ to avoid illegal content which may or may not stand in court even though their ads advertise illegal services such as isk to rl-money trade which is illegal itself and Google does not allow that:

http://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=176072
"Google AdWords doesn't allow the advertising of illegal products and services.
All advertising, as well as the products and services being advertised, must clearly comply with all applicable laws and regulations."

So if you just go there and imply that there shouldn't be illegal ads on Google in the first place you could probably point the finger elsewhere...