EVE General Discussion

yup, as others have echoed, its very likely you are not enjoying your time because of the group you are flying with. Most new players have a stigma that you should wait it out, but that is a bad move. Being in a bad corp is like being in an abusive relationship.

Trust me, if you have stuck it out for two months the GAME has got you, now its just time to find the right group of people to make it compelling to play.

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but: Eve University. I wish I'd joined them right away when I started EVE several years ago -- I could have saved myself a lot of grief(ers).

Isn't anyone else curious as to what his corp is doing to **** people off into deccing them every other week?

Whining about people having more skill points shows you don't understand how the game works. More skill points argument is only valid in fights consisting of less than 20 people.

EVE is a game where volume of numbers beats everything.

Skill is not important in this game in the truly gigantic picture.

Get into a n00b friendly alliance like g00ns or test and and grab your guns.

I'm literally seeing people turn up to fleets in n00b ships for engagements (possibly due to the new game changes to those ships).

If you can breath and undock, you're worth having in some fleets.

Like someone previously mentioned, ignore the elitists (Don't think you shouldn't even listen to yourself, you appear to have elitist tendencies caring about what others can do).

It's better to get out and try (and fail a lot, but at low sp levels, who cares?) and learn.

Ever heard of griefers?

Most of us have gone through what you are experiencing.

Do not give up. Eve is worth the early pain.

Get allies, join a tougher corp, just fight until they realize you are not a pushover.

No, we'll just keep wallet voting until you scumbags are properly leashed.



A non-passive aggressive answer from Tippia...towards me? Huh...thank you. And I agree with your point wholeheartedly, though I feel that this is a good example of why the population isn't increasing with new blood regularly and in larger numbers; because we let them get wtfpwned by griefers. Yes it's a learning curve, yes the universe is harsh, but the reality is that this isn't a universe, it's a game, on the internet, where a company makes money. Fewer new players, fewer subscriptions, less money, less capital, less investments into Eve.

I suggest you join EVE University and hang around for a while before you rush into PvP.

…and moving away from the PvP-centric nature of the game will cause all of that. Replacing your customer base does not work.

The “scumbags” as you like to call them is what keeps CCP from shutting down — they will not be put on a leash. Oh, and griefing gets you banned.

I'm gone ramble a bit but in short if you don't like that you are no where safe in EVE for other players "mis behavior" you maybe playing the wrong game or have to adjust your attitude towards it.

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My first corp, 5 years ago (very anti pirate at the time who's remaining members from 5 years ago are now part of the goons alliance ), had quite a lot of noobs (like me) back then as members.
We also had a lot of friends with we did lots of stuff together, like mass mining, mass hauling or missioning, was lot of fun back then.

At some point we ran of course, since this is EVE, into a wardec. Some of my fellow noobisch corp mates took up their weapon and although I was quite shiverish at the idea I said ok, I'm in lets see if we can fight back.
Then my CEO told me no, told me to leave corp even tough I didn't wanted, and I had to watch my few week fellow ex corp mates fight the wardeccers from the sideline.

"We" lost 3-4 ships they lost a t2 and something else, I don't remember. Thing is after that, the wardec pretty fast ended.

AS MOST WARDECS DO.

Been wardecced plenty of times after that, never left the corp I was in that got the wardec, just did other stuff, or I/we went to low sec. It's funny how quick the high sec wardec bunnies turn yellow when they have to fight on even odds or against their odds.

My point here would be that a wardec is not the end of the world and the short time it usually lasts is nothing to get your panties in a bunch from. Oh yeah, don't mine when war decced. It's just asking for it.

Being somewhat a care bear myself, in a now dead-dead pirate corp, I've been in low sec and null. I like low sec, you know at least that there are no neutrals there, while in high sec you get a continues false sense of safety while you're actually swimming in a big pool filled with sharks. Null just blows with the overrated blown up ego's that dwell there but w.e.


Anyway, as a noob before I got into my first corp I got introduced to a later announced exploit called the 'lofty scam'. You could fleet up any one then kill them without any problem. Which was "verry courageous" to gank a 8 day old like me but again that is EVE too. I didn't fall for it because I stay in touch trough these forums. Knowing the game, spending time to get to know the game will keep you out of trouble or offers other opportunities to you when things seem to fall apart. EVE *IS* a complex game. You didn't drive that car properly in the first day did you?

As a noob I went missioning in low sec for the extra money and never finished 1 single mission because other players interrupted me, constantly.
I flew in a afk shuttle 30 jumps or something a like through low sec and lost it on a gate by a smart bomb, my first Player vs Player loss, but retained my pod and flew manually a bit more scared now back to high sec in a pod until someone told me better to spend some money on a new shuttle so if my ship got zapped again, I maybe again was able to escape in my pod.

I mined for month's in a high sec pocket in between 2-3 low sec spaces. The rocks there where and probably still are HUGE! I flew my hulk and Itty 3 without any trouble weekly in and out, only got caught by a Thanatos on a station when I tried to leave with a skill book I stupidly bought there in low sec.

And I did many, many more stupid things (and probably still do) yet I never gave up.
It scares the sh*t out of me at times realizing I'm not playing against a computer generated AI but real human beings. Those are the most cunning, vicious, clever, cunning, obnoxious enemies you can run into, where an AI will fail miserably.

It's the reason why after so many years I still am in love with EVE. It's never the same. It will be always different, with plenty of surprises, even the unwelcome ones.

If you expect a safe theme park like WoW is and you hate that someone else is urinating in your part of the EVE sandbox, which EVE is, you maybe trying to play the wrong game or need to adjust your approach towards it.
I myself learned how to beam my 'stream' back, may not be by pure php, though I don't mind to 'blob up', but if I can waste someones time trying to catch me for hours in a low sec system or severely fekk up someones stupid 0.01 isk wars on the market (/me waves at the tears in MD ), my day in EVE is made.